you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It won't be 10 years until Whites are a minority in Canada, closer to between 2035-2040 based on data from current mortality, immigration, and birth rates.

Look at the only places where you can even own a home or have a high paying job? The Toronto area is perhaps the only livable part of Ontario, and the the last census in 2016 showed it was 47% White.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Toronto#Ethnic_diversity

If a political party can't win the GTA, they might as well just give up. The entire national and economic policies are being dictated by this golden horseshoe.

Same with Vancouver or Montreal. Those places are already close to half white and it's where all the high paying jobs are.

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Western Canadians simply need to realize that the demographic distribution of this country negates them from actually having any political power federally, i.e. so why continue participating in a system that de facto does not allow your participation? Separatism is the only solution to that problem.

Most Canadians outside the GTA don't give a shit about Toronto. I couldn't care less about it and neither should you. Perhaps you live there, but as you've quite clearly stated, it's not the place for you to be putting down roots if you care about what the future will look like. I know the sunk cost fallacy all too well and that's often one reason why people are hesitant to leave but once you do, you're literally free of the pull from that blackhole.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Even if we all left Toronto, the damage has been done already. Look at this:

Total Canadian Births in 2020: 374,885

https://www.statista.com/statistics/443051/number-of-births-in-canada/

Total Immigrants (before Pandemic): 341,000 permanent residents + 30,000 refugees, + 402,000 students + 404,000 TFWs

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/annual-report-parliament-immigration-2020.html

There are more foreigners than Native citizens being born. How do we house these people or share jobs? They're buying up every piece of land in this country and charging higher rent. Wherever you run, they're just going to follow you.

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

We're a large country and people are mobile.

I suggest sticking to a general separatist strategy and advocating for political autonomy from the east.

If I owned some land where people could move to and get away from places like the GTA, would you relocate?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

If it could guarantee the same quality of life, sure.

Remember, people still stick with Toronto because it offers them a chance at saving money so they could try relocating later.

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If it could guarantee the same quality of life, sure.

Remaining in those places pretty much guarantees a lower quality of life in the long run. You will become a minority or already are, you will not have any preferential treatment in your job and will likely be discriminated against (see s15.2 of the Charter which already allows this), so what exactly do you have to lose? Start building the future you want somewhere where you will have autonomy and sustainability.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if I could guarantee the same quality of life, sure.

There’s your problem mate. The liberal-capitalist system relies on people being too comfortable to act or think of anything beyond buying more stuff.

If there gonna be change it will come with hard times, at least at first. Canada’s huge (speaking as a Scot), there’s plenty of places to build a life, though I wouldn’t blame you either for taking your family & leaving.