Have you taken the vaccine?

submitted by JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist from (self.debatealtright)

all 27 comments
sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes.

[–]Oingo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Took the vaccine, immediately got COVID afterwards, which I literally recovered from in a day. 🤡

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Nope. won't take tests either. Luckily I've spent two years preparing for this so I'm got enough money and a living situation that will allow me to go without a paycheck for quite a long time. I also have backup water and power systems.

Personally I still think this isn't going to happen. There will be lawsuits and there will be multiple businesses and public offices that will close due to lack of qualified staff the minute they try to enforce. People are going to shit a brick and recall officials if there are no public offices or grocery stores or other services.

None of this bothers me. Acceleration was always an option.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think they might back off on the vaccine mandates. The establishment will switch to the tactic they always do when faced with backlash: slow attrition. More immigration, more private sector coercion, a gradual uptick in restrictions, and an ever-increasing list of inconveniences.

A lot of resisting people would gradually fall off and it would leave the stage open for a full-on vaccine mandate afterward. Time is on their side.

This is what the right doesn't understand. They have to fight and win now. Retreat and holding out means allowing the enemy to wear you out with gradual attrition.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The establishment will switch to the tactic they always do when faced with backlash: slow attrition.

Agreed and it might sound strange but this option is even more deadly. Too many people just fall asleep when the elites go back to slow boil approaches.

[–][deleted]  (1 child)

[deleted]

    [–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    The stark unprecedented media censorship on the subject confirmed to me that the narrative being presented was disingenuous or outright false.

    One example from last November, starts at 2 minutes.

    https://youtu.be/kfttOB2cy50?t=120

    [–]TrabWhite Nationalist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I have not and do not plan to. I had covid already and was thankfully asymptomatic

    [–]88BitSorelianism 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Look

    Basically I'm just not gonna get the vaccine

    I know... UGH I know

    I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It's just that I'm not getting it is all

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    [–][deleted]  (4 children)

    [deleted]

      [–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      From the people I know that have gotten injected, it seems like employer or license requirements were the primary factor (call it job-related), second would be an apparent pre-disposition to defer to authority (trust the science).

      The second type seems more naïve and thinks that their compliance means things will go back to normal. I've tried my best to get them to think, mention goal-post moving, setting a hard line as to what metrics need to be met to go back to normal, how long/when based on what our authorities have said. Seems like everyone has short memories like in 1984.

      [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I've tried my best to get them to think, mention goal-post moving, setting a hard line as to what metrics need to be met to go back to normal,

      This is good to get the neurons firing, and its a good way to setup a discussion about the coming new normal (((they))) have planned, where we have to have a revocable QR code to scan in order to live.

      [–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Lesson so far appears to be that people have short memories and don't seem to care that much. It's like with illegal immigration and blue collar work, most people don't give a shit about something until it is directly affecting them. The frog boiling that our governments are doing doesn't help either.

      [–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      See my response below. I did so bc woman subject to NYCs vaccine mandate. Don't care about the restaurants but gym access is essential for me. The political landscape here as well as how courts are going have persuaded me resistance to vaccine mandates are not going to prevail. More and more employers are going to require, especially new hires. Unlike others I do not see these as some nefarious plot (well privacy, information gathering concern me). I perceive a moderate to low risk to vaccines, and see no reason why I should have to take them given natural immunity but relented just so I can go to the gym and also bc it's clear to me vaccine mandates will prevail in court.

      [–][deleted]  (3 children)

      [deleted]

        [–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        I did, don't really think they are gonna mass murder us with it, lots of jews at my workplace have openly gotten it and I doubt they would poison their own.

        Um

        https://simple.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurion

        If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.

        Attributed to Ben-Gurion by Martin Gilbert in [2] "Israel was everything" in The New York Times (21 June 1987)]

        [–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        In fact, there was a Jewish diplomat who reported to his superior that he could free all Jews from Germany if he paid the NSDAP $1m, and the response was to leave it alone because when the nations would be divided after the war, the Jews need an argument why Palestine should belong to them. I'm not sure about the exact source, but I believe it was featured in Probing the Holocaust.

        (I'm not saying it was 6 million Jews, or that the NSDAP intended to kill them, but that doesn't take anything away from this point.)

        [–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Interesting, I haven't heard that before. Thanks for sharing and the link.

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Yes, two doses of Sinopharm, no side effects at all, and dozens of people I know who had Pfizer didn't have any side effects either, only my cousin had slight temperature.

        All this crap that vaccine kills or paralyzes or makes you infertile is schizo bullshit akin to trusting the plan, and I see no good reason not to get vaccinated.

        [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Sinopharm is a clean vaxx. We cant get it in U.S.A.

        [–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

        I did yesterday, pretty much agaiinst my will. I had Covid before, so have natural immunity, and I am not over 65. Nor do I suffer from comorbidities that put me at high risk. Here in NYC, I have to get the vaccine by the 13th if I want to go to the gym. There are possible side effects from the vaccines, so far in the clear. In the end I measure the risks of not having access to the gym against those of the vaccine. Not going to the gym mm is going to have a drastic effect on my health and body. 100 percent certainty of that. the vaccine is a much lower risk. I am not really agaisnt the vaccineas I am against the vaccine mandate and the militant zealotry for masks and vaccines.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

        pretty much agaiinst my will.

        Were you arrested and tied down?

        [–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        Understand there are different levels of coercion. Other people are getting the vaccine (against their will) just to keep their jobs. And do not give me that shit that it is a choice. Most people need a job to live. More and more places are making vaccination a prerequisite to vaccination, as well, so it is not as if one can just quit and get another job right off the bat.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Other people are getting the vaccine (against their will) just to keep their jobs

        If I told you drink poison to keep your job you'd obviously take your chances working under the table. So obviously you are unconvinced the jab is deadly. That's fine. I have no issue with that. It's really over most peoples heads to dig down deep on the data and see how deadly this thing is.

        What I don't understand is why you'd volunteer to lose more rights. Bodily autonomy and property rights. Once those are gone it's game over. You're a subject not a citizen. It doesn't matter if you have a job for a few more months or years. Your liberty and freedom is gone. Once they have a jab in your arm every year or every month then they know they can basically take everything else because if you resist they adulterate your monthly injection or they use the control grid to isolate and punish you for your opposition. You've gotta pick a hill and I guess this isn't your hill but that's why I asked the other question in the other comment chain. What's your hill richard? At what point do you say no? Government controlled digital currency? 5 shots? 6 shots? Mandatory cell phone check in at all businesses? Mandatory reparations for non whites? Gun confiscations (using the control grid created by the vax passports)? Do you see what's going on? It's not going to stop. Even if the vaxx is totally safe it's not really about the vaxx it's about the control grid. It's about getting rid of people like us and making people like use easy to monitor, isolate and elimination. By accepting the vax you're allowing the government another step to enslave us forever. Everytime we cuck we make it a little harder on ourselves in the future.

        [–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        So you are not only convinced that there possible long term side effects we do not know about, but the jab is deadly, as a certainty? Yeah sorry, don't but that.

        Right now I am stuck here, in the short term (next year) I have to focus on training, getting my health back, then look for s way to get out of here. Right now for me going to the gym is more important.

        If you are proven right I am currently powerless to stop it. It is clear to me the gym I belong to did not want to go along with it, but given what my neighborhood is what is, a handful of members would surely turn them in.

        I hate my gym or did, only go there bc only one within reasonable distance. It is managed by this hot but nasty Greek chicken. Control F and her name on the yelp page get thirty hits from one star reviews.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        You're a regular here and I enjoy your contributions so I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm just trying to understand how someone who has your level of understanding about dissident politics could just suspend that and get a vaccine pushed by big pharma. These are the pharmaceutical companies that have turned the health care system into centrally controlled drug dispensaries. Modern hospitals do everything in their power to make you chronically sick not healthy. Didn't you follow the Sackler family and opiod crisis? That was engineered to kill poor whites. These people hate you and want to see you and your family raped, broke and dead and they think it's funny.

        Right now for me going to the gym is more important

        I hope that you avoid the complications from the spike proteins produced by the gene therapy shot and I desperately hope that you do figure out a line that you will not cross. Try to figure it our now so that when it comes (and it will come) you will be ready to stand your ground.

        [–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I'm just trying to understand how someone who has your level of understanding about dissident politics could just suspend that and get a vaccine pushed by big pharma.

        It is really bc I am stuck in NYC and the political and legal dynamics that go along with that. This combined with vastly different risk assessments each of has made led me to this decision, certainly under a fair amount of coercion. I gained a fair amount of weight during the lockdown and have been really focused now for two months and I am not going to let this shit derail me, not that I have overcome the inertia and things are starting to hum along. I am happy to correspond privately if you want. I resist the notion this is some sinister is some sinister Jonestoen plot, and if it were, only ones left standing would be rural whites and pockets of minorities 8nnthe cities. Again, I did not want to take the vaccine but my gym is not going to look the other way and no one is going to stop DeBlasio's mandate, certainly not before Monday. I am not doing that Excelsior thing though, just going to show my vaccine card or w picture of it.

        [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        Bruh...

        Can't you buy weights and do it at home?

        [–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I already addressed that.

        [–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        TBH, you'd have been much better off skipping the vaxx and swimming the channel. Afterall, swimming is the very best exercise/workout. Hopefully you don't find out you have myocarditis or a blood clot when you're pushing your heart-rate at the gym. That would be a pretty crap way to find out that you were injured by the experimental mrna gene-therapy.