What is your opinion on the Texas abortion law?

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[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

The white nationalist argument that abortion is good because it's used primarily by non-whites is a deal-breaker for the majority of religious conservatives. I think this argument is an intentionally planted poison-pill because this single topic will forever keep white nationalism from gaining a foothold in politics.

There's no need to push rhetoric that most people find repulsive. The key to forming a white nationalist movement is to promote culture and community. People are naturally drawn to other people of like-mind/values (culture) and people who share cultural values tend to also share skin-color.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I don't particularly care what's a deal breaker for extremely low IQ, liberal-egalitarian, decaying old people to be honest with you. They aren't the target demographic for a national-liberation, revolutionary vanguard.

Abortion is objectively good, it alleviates a LOT of unnecessary suffering. You can be horrified at the depravity of abortion whilst also recognising it is a necessary evil because without it every single one of those babies would have had a horrible life and the vast majority of them would go on to be anti-social in many respects.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I think that there seems to be a consensus that those potential babies were all going to have incredible lives through someone that ended up adopting them, or even if they went into the foster care system that all foster carers are beacons of love and self sacrifice to better the children in their care. Or maybe believe that the mother or mother's family would realize that it's a human life, and suddenly drop all bad habits, becoming an excellent member of society and perfect parent. There's also the thought processes that the child could grow up to be an incredibly successful person, defy all odds, cure cancer, etc.. I'm pretty sure that there's a huge level of cognitive dissonance that comes into play when pro-lifers discuss abortion, like they'll make every attempt possible to lie to themselves about the fate of these children and reason that no matter what they're valid and will somehow be cared for-- and dismiss the details for what usually happens to unwanted children. It's just like cognitive dissonance with any other topic, really.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Their arguments for the value of the unborn rely on the same liberal mysticism that left-libtards do when a black gets himself killed attacking police.

"That baby would have had a great life and went on to be a productive member of society etc" is the rightoid equivalent of "he a good boy, he was getting his life together, getting his GED n shieet."

Being trapped in stupid liberal thinking leads people completely unable to think anything through reasonably.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Where you're wrong is the generalization that ALL of these evangelicals (or even a large chunk of them) are, "Decaying old people."

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hilarious you acknowledge a generalisation and then immediately still strawman. This comment couldn't have been more obtuse, dishonest, and retarded if you tried.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You shouldn't be so attached to religious conservatives, you should lead them out of it instead of sinking down to their level.

Abortions are completely voluntary, while these looneys want to force more downies and non-whites into the world.

It's even funnier because they say "is in da Bible maaaan" while Bible quite literally doesn't have a problem with smashing babies heads against the rock.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

you should lead them out of it instead of sinking down to their level

I should start leading people away from their faith which, for most people (of faith) makes up a significant part of their core values/beliefs? That's pretty absurd. How is stating a fact, "Sinking down to their level?" I'm suggesting that white nationalists leave some of their less-palatable rhetoric behind, because with it as baggage, the movement will never reach critical-mass. The fight to protect the USA's white-majority is already over--it was lost well-over a decade before the most recent census numbers were published. The goal should now be to promote Anglo culture/values amongst the remaining Anglosphere of America. It just so happens that the core of Anglo culture is Christianity and the majority of Christians are instantly turned off by rhetoric that supports the murder of children regardless of the child's color. Red-pilling is a step-by-step process. The typical normie conservative will completely shut down when confronted with pro-baby murder rhetoric. It doesn’t matter if you agree with that normie on every other topic imaginable because the topic of abortion is for many a 1-issue voting topic.

Do you want a movement that actually succeeds or are you content memeing and making edgy comments on dar and /pol/?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This sinking down to be more palatable has never worked. It only leads to Q-tier bafoonery. You have to get rid of Big Normie mindset, Jews never "redpilled" anyone, they (mis)led and (mis)guided people instead.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Jews never "redpilled" anyone, they (mis)led and (mis)guided people instead.

So... you're suggesting we mislead and misguide people so they do our bidding? Q-tier bafoonery only exists when people allow it to exist. Even Alex Jones told people that Q was a psi-op. Comparing this to the Q psi-op is nothing but, false equivalence.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am not suggesting that.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No offense, but that has never worked.

[–]LetssavethefirsworldReturn to Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

TIL babies volunteer to die in their mother's womb

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I won't disagree because I agree on personal level that it's disgusting, but you have to look at it policy-wise.