Good new Keith Woods video about the development from Liberalism to Neo-Liberalism to Neo-Feudalism

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[–]NeoRail 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

You are free to call things any way you wish, but I disagree that "neo-feudalism" is the "perfect term". It is a misleading term. If you are willing to use misleading terminology, then go ahead. I have already outlined my reasons on why I dislike the term right here:

The problem I have with the "neo-feudalism" frame is that it links modern neoliberalism with feudalism, consequently making liberalism proper appear as some sort of high point sandwiched between those two eras, even though the two systems are absolutely nothing alike.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

And I already told why you were wrong. Neo Feudalism doesn't not imply anything in which you suggest. Nothing about the term implies liberalism is good or feudalism is bad or vice versa. As I already said feudalism could be the greatest system ever and neo feudalism would still be a good term to describe what modern society is developing into. You like feudalism so you don't like the term because you misunderstand what it implies.

You mistakenly think neo feudalism implies negativity towards feudalism which it does not.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

As I already said feudalism could be the greatest system ever and neo feudalism would still be a good term to describe what modern society is developing into.

No, it would not. "Neo-Feudalism" literally means "new feudalism". It is extremely obvious why referring to the current system as "neo-feudalism" brings to mind the feudal era, and how associations are in this way formed between the feudal and neoliberal eras.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It means new and different and is often used in a derogatory way when it comes to politics, a way to imply that the new version is an inferior bastardized version of the original.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Can you give an example?

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Neo liberal or Neo marxist, very few would ever identify as neo liberal or neo marxist.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I do not think either of those are valid examples that demonstrate your point. At the very least, it is clear that they refer to similar ideas, not to different ones. Neoliberalism truly takes after the spirit of liberalism, rather than that of the social democracy which came after it. Neo-Marxism, despite being a purely polemical term, also aims to establish a Marxist continuity. If the term "neo-feudalism" should be considered to be of the same type as these two, then it is a misnomer.