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[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Does anyone here have sympathy for these soldiers? Within a year of invasion, we knew the mission in Afghanistan was over--Bin Laden escaped to Pakistan and the Taliban was all but defeated yet, the war continued. The mission in Iraq was also bullshit because weapons of mass destruction did not exist. However, even with ALL of this PUBLIC information, Americans continued to sign up for the military and many of those signed up because they wanted to deploy in the Sandbox. That means these people signed up to go slaughter innocent Afghani and Iraqi civilians--what other reason could they have? Does an economic opportunity provide a valid excuse for those who signed up voluntarily to slaughter innocent people (GI Bill, etc)? In my opinion, because the information about these wars was wide-spread and PUBLIC--everyone who signed up to serve in these wars is complicent in this debacle and deserving of ZERO sympathy.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Young working class men are always going to volunteer to fight, especially when they’re subjected to sophisticated propaganda from birth.

Save the hated for those who engineered this situation.

[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Young working class men are always going to volunteer to fight

Most ZOGbots are not working class. That's a myth. https://freakonomics.com/2008/09/22/who-serves-in-the-military-today/

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I’m not American & I don’t really know how your class culture works over there. From what I have heard it’s a lot less ingrained & the lines are more blurry than in Britain, and a lot more Americans identify as middle class even if they’re quite poor.

Maybe that would explain some of it. I’d also guess there’s a lot more poor white rural types staffing your frontline infantry units and a lot more rich kids, overweight black women, etc sitting behind desks in glorified office jobs in their bases.

In the UK the vast majority of soldiers are from white working class communities (officers are 90+% rich kids). They’re just normal lads like myself & the people I grew up with. They’re not ‘zogbots’.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

and a lot more Americans identify as middle class even if they’re quite poor.

I identify as a temporarily embarrassed millionaire, although I'm quite certain it's not temporary.