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[–]Yin 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yet on the side you're a mouthpiece for (heavily anti-white) globalists and their tyrannical control schemes.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not voting for the next head of state in my country's elections next month.

I can give advice and share my own opinions, but I'm not actually responsible for putting any people in power who can even authorize these things.

It's like how back in the early 2000s, I was still opposed to any Middle Eastern wars. But since I couldn't actually vote back then, my opinions were about as influential as anyone who sat next to me and listened.

But I learned all these things are the wrong way to approach politics. We can't just exist on the sidelines, since someone else will fill the vacuum and enact changes. We have to eventually support a leader or candidate, who can promise to go to the Capital and lead our governments. But I need a leader first who is clearly anti-immigration and isn't afraid to preach that.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There is no solution that involves voting, sorry to say.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The entire concept of Democracy was always an enigma, since millions of third world immigrants always vote for the party that supports more immigration. Year after year, they never change their mind and they only support this one agenda.

I would still back a leader, but it wouldn't surprise me if the only way to gain power requires circumventing the democratic process.

Canada in particular is pretty damn far gone that unfortunately, it forces this type of reality in the future. Since mega cities like Toronto, Vancouver or Montreal are magnets for migrants and they determine how every election plays out.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I support democratic approaches, but our modern countries are not democratic. They are pay-to-play oligarchies

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Moral arguments work best with boomers in my experience. Whenever someone is hurt by diversity, I point out that boomers deserve it. Some girl got raped? Tell them straight up that her boomer family caused this and its deserved. They created this bed and now their children will have to sleep in it.
You get confused looks, as boomers are VERY bad at taking any blame for anything. Remember they were taught individualism and personal responsibility (a way to ignore all personal blame for problems in a community).
"Oh, she got raped? Her boomer grandparents probably voted for this, so its deserved. They also probably still support diversity, so I have no sympathy for them or their family"

When they say things like "You can never change this", they want it to be a win for them, but you can make it a complete lose for them by agreeing with them and condemning them morally for the permanent & inevitable destruction they've done to both their children and their civilisation. They're evil, selfish, short-thinking, any derogatory term that hits them where it hurts. Calling them things like "traitors" probably wont stick, but framing it as them stabbing their grand children in the back works fine.

Edit: And don't say it to be edgy, or to trigger, or in other ways where you are appealing to them or wanting them to agree with you. Say it in a condescending, condemning, blaming, distancing manner. You don't say it to "convince" them that they're bad. You already made up your mind and you're not interested in their opinion or excuses on this topic. The only thing you give attention to or have time for is them saying "they didn't want it" or "that they never voted for it". Make them reject or deny (Like Peter denied knowing Jesus). Alternatively, listen if they REPENT or REGRET their actions. Those two types of responses can be met with validation, any other response deserves visible contempt or complete /ignore.

[–]Salos60000Pragmatic European Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Are you guilt tripping out of pragmatism to motivate them or out of genuine spite and blame?

If its the second one, I disagree strongly and would argue the 2 shitty generations prior(including the one our current race traitor in chief is from) are more to blame and have done more fucked up shit to the world than the boomers ever have.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't have any genuine spite against them and I don't think its a useful feeling (at least for me) to have. Its an act to manipulate forth a specific response from a specific demographics that share some of the same personal characteristics due to a shared culture/understanding.

If they regret/repent, they might start to think of ways to change things. If they deny their wrong doings (ie. ever being pro immigration), they might stop spreading anti white rhetoric.

I have never blamed any boomer directly, but have blamed them indirectly by blaming other boomers. This gives them an escape. "I never supported that", "I am not like those guys that you don't like". (Basically, "I am not a racist" psychology)

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

would argue the 2 shitty generations prior(including the one our current race traitor in chief is from) are more to blame

Still, it's interesting to hear the perspective of the kids, and to get a sense of which version of history they've been consuming. A bit blackpilling once you see how mammal-like we are, but what can you do?

[–]douglas_waltersWhite Supremacist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Even if you are telling the truth, it just means you are incredibly weird. Instead of meaninglessly debating boomers who will not influence our future, engage in more productive activities. Meet some young men and convert prime recruits.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It's a huge mistake to not learn how this entire downward spiral was allowed to happen. And even though these Boomers are on their way out, actually hearing for the first time their thoughts on Race is a huge eye opener because they still indoctrinate their children with the same beliefs.

These same people also spent their whole careers lying to us, because they demanded sympathy and pity for their own life stories. But when I approach them now about the idea of younger people trying to stop immigration and save our nations, they go complete retard and call me names for suggesting diversity isn't actually what it's all cracked up to be.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Think about it. 5000 years of domination, completely destroyed by 1 generation.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

They were never held accountable for the rapid destruction.

George Bush II went on television and clearly lied about invading Iraq in 2003. Yet he somehow evaded arrest and even got voted in 4 more years as President.

Whereas today, we got Zoomers born in the last two decades that are wearing BLM merchandise on their bodies, but we also got people like Nick Fuentes who are the same age but see through this nonsense.

If people don't wake up to this now, they'll suffer the same fate as Boomers and lie to their children about diversity being an unstoppable force.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Before I head off to get some rest, there's one more piece of the story I want to share.

It was the Boomers who were trying to guilt shame me into accepting refugees from Africa & now Afghanistan. They wanted me to believe that the West is somehow responsible for these disasters, but I wrote down and told them "Have you ever wondered why these refugees never go to China, if they think their own life is in danger?" "Or Israel? A country that might blow up any foreign vessel that enters their waters?".

That was the only time they had shut up and weren't willing to fight me on this subject. They're fully aware that there are other nations who are willing to protect their borders and demographics, even if it makes them look categorically "evil".

But here's the hypocrisy. When I want the exact same migration policies for Western countries, they shifted back to their first argument "Africa was enslaved, and Afghanistan was invaded. So we have to accept those people now".

Imagine if we educated more people on the myths of the slave trade? Or try and tell more people that Africa & the Middle East already received a lot of rebuilding aid but the third world countries destroy it everytime they're put in charge? It would hopefully remove this dumb idea that refugees are somehow our problem, instead of the fact, they can never fix their own places.

[–]AidsVictim69 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's not as if younger whites are any better. The majority of whites (at least in North America) in any generation are indoctrinated into something resembling a racial cult of Baal where they will feed their children, family, and future into the great fire of diversity in the hopes it will appease the Gods of white guilt.

[–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Wiggers and wokeoids are retarded, but they can't be blamed too much (or at least some of them can't be) because most people, even among Whites, are sheep who follow the herd. Especially when, in essence, the entire life of a Zoomer (or even back in the day Boomers as well) is designed to entrap them. Porn, drugs, negroid "culture", atheism/nihilism, Satanism, and other machinations of Jewry are so prevalent and stated as facts of life and things you should try or even commit your life to, so much so that avoiding all of these is near impossible, not to mention escaping any ill effects (genetically, psychologically, socially, etc.) you might glean from your ancestors.

[–]AidsVictim69 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wiggers and wokeoids are retarded, but they can't be blamed too much (or at least some of them can't be) because most people, even among Whites, are sheep who follow the herd

Sure, that's my point. While I find it amusing and somewhat cathartic to see boomers have their noses rubbed in the failures of liberalism the reality this is just petty generational infighting, boomers were indoctrinated to believe this crap at their own offsprings expense. There is a lot of intergenerational bitterness because boomers lived under better conditions (material, social, and cultural) but it's not as if they consciously caused these conditions to deteriorate - they simply did as the system and culture directed them. At this point they are too old and useless to wake up from their stupor and there's no real point in blaming them.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Especially when, in essence, the entire life of a Zoomer (or even back in the day Boomers as well) is designed to entrap them. Porn, drugs, negroid "culture", atheism/nihilism, Satanism, and other machinations of Jewry are so prevalent and stated as facts of life and things you should try or even commit your life to

But wait. Home come Asian children grow up and are immune to these things?

Porn is technically illegal in South Korea, and Japan censors it. Drugs are heavily punished or frowned upon their communities. It's even considered punishable by death penalty. And while there is the rap/ghetto influence on Asian kids, they at least tend to create their own rap stars instead of worshipping black ones.

[–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Asians have a very strong culture and many of the things you mentioned. That's where a lot of their "immunity" comes from. They have other things that handicap them though, and since they have even more of a group mentality it effects them even worse.

[–]peaceful 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You did really well because your points are so sensible. I especially like your point about Crime & Accountability. I get similar responses online from whites of all ages.

We also need to encourage the altright to do this as full time jobs, all day every day. Waking up whites is the whole war and we need lots of people doing that.

Perhaps you could also do online odysee debates.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's hard to believe, but I'm actually an incredibly shy person when it comes to putting myself out there and trying to spread the word to the masses.

If it was up to me, I wish I had the same wealth as Elon Musk and could privately donate to all the people who have much more leadership qualities than me.

Someone like Jared Taylor, would have made the perfect U.S President from 1989 ~ 2024. It's just a huge shame that nature has done its course, and he's now gotten really old in age. But I truly admire his life work and even felt like crying, when I learned he was on National TV and tried his best to try and persuade people on the same issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49gp3NLWkVU

This was in 2003 and the exact same anti-white and anti-western civilization rhetoric was being spewed by the masses, but he did all he could to politely refute why this was wrong.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Your friends are less in the boomer demographic, and more in the retarded Canadian demographic.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's a top down problem. Even if I ignore the Boomers, our politicians who rule us are no better.

This election, there's only 5 real parties to choose from. Liberals, Conservatives, NDP, Green and the Bloc. All of them are the exact same on immigration. Only Bloc might be a little different, because they want French immigrants. But if a Black Haitian or Algerian Muslim speaks French, they would be happy to be replaced by them.

This is honestly the worst event I've seen in my life. The issues caused by diversity has finally made its way into every level of society and it wont stop until the entire country becomes mongrolized like Brazil.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People tend to not like hearing this, but it's because our species is not that different than cows. Now, anyway. It was way less so in the past. Our herders decide our fate for us. They used to have our interests in mind, or at least didn't openly torture us, but that has changed, which is a whole topic in itself.

But as a member of a mostly compliant herd, what does an individual do? If all dissidents acted at once, we could break down the fences around our pasture and trample our oppressors. Short of that, who wants to give up their life for a bunch of slackjaws and blend ins?

It does look like Canada is going to fall before the US. Without training, money, and a lot of smarts, it's unlikely you could form a group of resistance fighters to assassinate the worst of those politicians. That's really the only hope for your country, but you'd likely be picked off pretty quickly.

I'll never live where it freezes again, but you could go north until you leave most of it behind. Otherwise, learn to love your new global homo of color.

Used to be a mustard of puppets on voat who lived way up there in the sparsely settled region. I believe he fished almost every single day, and posted pics sometimes. So people can apparently survive that.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

this is weird cuz boomers are the most conservative

tho younger folks likely will get more conservative as they age

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Take a look at the video I shared with peaceful, above you. Or here, I'll relink it again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49gp3NLWkVU

Everything you see is what both me and Jared Taylor had to put up with our entire lives. Yet if "Conservatives" or Boomers had the same thoughts on immigration, why do they express so much hostility when we raise the arguments to them?

And even if the younger folks do become Conservative, the demographics are not the same. Go look at South Africa and do you think the Blacks vote differently based on age? Do the old blacks even attempt to sympathize or help the dwindling White minority in their own countries?

The answer, is the exact same as why I fear demographic change in our own countries. Every mainstream party this upcoming election has goals to increase immigration. If anyone tries to actually vote, you are only securing a future where more non-white people will be allowed to blow up statues, burn the flag, traffic in more illegal drugs, refuse to speak English or French, refuse to even ASSIMILIATE, because all the White people who tried to prevent those things, will be gone or have been called "racist".

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

isn't jared a boomer here

I guess we are screwed as hell, the most conservative demographic, boomers, are pro immigration. What is the hope for a solution here. I was thinking maybe the bright side of covid was borders getting closed. Biden still has the border with canada closed meaning they can't come here. Mexico not so.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

isn't jared a boomer here

Yes. He was born in 1951, thus making him 52 years old at the time of the video. The guy he was debating on diversity was even older than him. Phil Donahue was born in 1935, or 67 years old. Crazy shit.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I often see democrats being hopeful for their future because they think as the boomers die off, and covid has accelerated that, hardly anyone will vote repub, so dems will have a permanent super majority. May or may not happen as we will see if young folks now turn more conservative as they learn about the real world. Boomers were hippies when young but turned conservative in the 80s.

[–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

they said Black criminals are always innocent, even when they're caught redhanded

In your three hours, did they defend this assertion or implication?

This is the only thing that strongly hints at underlying beliefs, or a possible conflict with them. I would drop everything and attack this like an alligator squeezing the life out of a dog. To me, the only possible success of this is to get you or them to understand what kind of malfunction plagues their reasoning.

The rest is as useful as debating politics on Reddit, which their responses remind me of.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

In your three hours, did they defend this assertion or implication?

Without giving away too much private info, a notorious criminal was recently arrested, that both me and the Boomer had connections with.

We were also both witnesses to the crime, and the police contacted both of us to confirm his whereabouts.

I wanted to use the criminal as proof, that a "lack of a good education" or "access to money" is not the reason why so many non-whites still end up becoming dangerous felons. Especially as this person had a REALLY good life. He was born in Canada, given plenty of expensive cars for FREE, yet he still ended up terrorizing my city until the police finally nabbed him.

Yet the Boomer denied this and still said it was "systematic racism" that turned him into a violent criminal. She asked me for my sources, and I said the FBI keeps a record of murders every year, and it clearly shows Blacks commiting way more violent acts relative to their population. She dismissed that source.

Then I told her to just go visit any prison and count the races you see inside. She dismissed it again and said "these people could have been framed or are innocent".

Then I tell her that the most dangerous cities in Canada or America are all Black. She dismissed it and said "White people kill each other too".

I literally threw every single blatant statistic of black overrepresentation in crime, but she seriously thinks that the government or FBI are faking these numbers to make them look bad. But if that was true, why don't we see Asians getting the same treatment? She just responds "Asians can be criminals too".

Yeah, it's hopeless...

[–]peaceful 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Jared Taylor has often cited that the statistics of black perpetrators from the National Crime Victimization Survey line up almost perfectly with black arrests reported by FBI, which shows the FBI's Arrests by Race and Ethnicity aren't affected by racism. I think this is it but I'm not sure which table it's on https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I still tried to show them that, especially as I mentioned that it's very easy to identify the dead bodies of victims since gang violence happens every year. And we all know which group does those the most...

But near the end of the debate, they had just completely lost their minds, because they supported banning the police and releasing everyone from jail. Included convicted murderers and serial killers.

I don't know what caused them to turn out like this, since for the most part, they were normal people and wouldn't harm a fly. But the minute the issue of race came up, some part of their brain just flicked and they instantly backed the idea of letting blacks destroy every neighborhood and blame it on Whites. Fuck.

[–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Funny, because feds fake white crime by counting non-white "hispanics" and sub-continental Indians as "white", which is easy to demonstrate.

I see this where pundits fake both sides of stats in the desired direction. This is social justice to them, to maintain a bias so strong that it signals their virtue.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I actually didn't have a problem with them questioning government sources at first. In fact, we all do the same thing and express healthy skepticism at what our politicians tell us.

However, they came out as massive hypocrites when the precious diversity they defend so much is being pushed by the government. So they would rather demonize and attack me for questioning mass immigration, but not the politicians who go on TV everyday and claim diversity is working.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sounds like a huge waste of time talking to this person.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The debate did teach me something really important. The Civil Rights Act passed in 1964, and in 57 years, it completely reversed society. Talking about race or racial policies became completely taboo.

If one bill has the power to change millions of minds like that, perhaps one day we can see another event that makes discussing race differences ok again.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You make it okay by talking about it.

Bring up the disproportionate amount of spending for police, justice, and penal on Blacks/minorities and people will change their tune quickly. Imagine what your community would look like if it didn't have to spend hundreds of millions every decade on the people that don't just not contribute to society, but actively harm it. Then push freedom of association.