Replacement migration and future demographic change in the UK.

submitted by Jacinda from self.debatealtright

I'm copying this in a somewhat edited form from a post made on r/BritishTraditionalism a replacement sub to the now banned r/BritishNationalism

David Coleman is an Emeritus Professor of Demography at Oxford. His researches are about mass immigration to Western Europe. He has highlighted these migrations are an unprecedented phenomenon. In the past mass migration has always been preceded by military invasion or mass violence. In the current situation, however, mass migration has been instigated by Western governments and couldn't have happened otherwise as the migrants' home countries are generally militarily inferior to the country they settle.

His predictions are that:

  • If the current immigration trend continues, White British Islanders will become a minority in the UK by the 2060's.

 

  • Even if the UK stopped all immigration (which seems very unlikely), White British Islanders will become a minority by the 2080's.

 

  • A portion of the people considered White British Islanders are not native Brits/Irish (e.g. some people who come from a mixed marriage or who have a mixed parent). But in the following decades, many individuals who have recent foreign ancestry will be considered White British to the point that the White British population in the second half of this century will be pretty different from actual native Brits.

    For example, although modern Mexicans have both Spanish and Native American heritage, they are racially distinct from Spaniards or Amerindians. This means native Brits/Irish will actually become a minority sooner than the 2060's or the 2080's.

 

  • All groups, besides White Brits, will increase in absolute terms at least until the 2050's. Later some groups like White Other or Black Caribbeans, may stabilise as they mix with White Brits.

 

  • There would be a period during which the older and the younger generations be racially different. This may may create problems and have a strong negative effect on intergenerational solidarity.

 

  • Mixed race will become the most numerous group as census category and even more so in practice. This is because many people classed as White British will in fact be mixed.

 

  • This demographic change, even if peaceful, will radically change the country and it is almost impossible that it remains the same when the majority of his inhabitants have a foreign background.

 

Prof Coleman's predictions don't take into account a hypothetical Scottish independence or Irish reunification which would undoubtedly accelerate the demographic change.

He also pointed out that while in all European nations where mass immigration has been welcomed the natives will become a minority, the UK will be the first European country where this would happen. The British timeline is more aligned with the US than with the rest of Europe. Probably because modern native Brits are very exogamous. [and a common tongue means US values are more easily transmitted to the UK than elsewhere]

The current conservative British government is pro-immigration and wants to welcome more English speaking skilled (although the definition of skilled is vague) immigrants from Asia. I fairly assume most of their voters are native Brits.

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I mentally write off the anglosphere barring the US . The people of Canada, Britain, New Zealand, and Australia are simply hopeless. They have no desire to oppose their destruction at all.

Even Germany, the most mentally defeated people in the world, have more fight in them than these countries. Not only do these peoples not resist their ruin, they actively celebrate it and attack anyone who opposes it in the slightest. They have no nationalist parties, no significant WN movements, the best they have are zionist anti-Jihad shils.

The anglo-saxon race invented liberalism and propagated it worldwide. It seems like they're taking it to its rational conclusion and obliterating itself in the service of the free market capitalism and individual liberties.

You have the PM of Britain, Boris Johnson openly talking about importing 4 million hong kongers and making Britain the Singapore of Europe. How low they have fallen that Britain wants to become a giant city state modeled after a city that used to be its own colony! Yet there is no pushback in the British press or culture at all against this.

Canada, New Zealand and Australia have even less push back to their replacement. Americans get a lot of shit but Americans are still resisting and have a very large white nationalist element in it.

The anglo-Saxon race has essentially adopted its fealty to liberalism and universalism as its identity and religion.

My guess is that unless, some pro-white empire liberates them, the anglo-saxon race will disappear from the face of the earth by 2150. There won't be any anglo-Saxons left in Britain, Canada or the ANZACs.

In America, I predict the bulk of the white race to perish either due to low birth rates, miscegenation or violence. But I predict that in the dystopian desert of America, a new ethnic white nation will emerge from the surviving populace. And this might get a bit scifi at this point, but I predict they'll go on to have a great destiny in the future. Because hardship weeds out the weak and binds the remainder into an iron block.

Historically, many nations have emerged similarly from the wastelands or frontiers of former empires. The parthians and Sassanids for Iran. The Goths for Late Rome. The Muscovites for Russia, the Timurids and Mughals for central Asia and Afghanistan. The Asturains for Spain.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t think that you’ve ever lived in or interacted with many British people, outside of maybe a few upper-middle class travellers or business people.

If you’d spent time with any working class community up & down the island you’d see a very different picture than the one you painted. People are sick & tired with the system just as much as anywhere in Europe, you just have to remember that a)we’re unfortunately plugged into the degenerate US media system due to a common language and b) The FPTP voting system makes it much harder for nationalists to gain political representation here.

also remember that even with FPTP, the British National Party was the most successful Fascist party in Europe for years & set an example for others.

[–]Jacinda[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If ethnic conflict does break out the results are going to be traumatic. See the review of Ethnic Apocalypse: The Coming European Civil War (Original title: Guerre civile raciale) by the French author Guillaume Faye.

The Occidental Observer:

[In] “The De-Migration of the Afterwar." ... the author offers a vision of White victory. He posits that the racial civil war would “through its unique violence, turn into an unprecedented collective trauma whose memory will echo across the centuries.” In other words, multiculturalism would never again be repeated by our descendants. [Cont...]

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A good 30 minute speech by Kai Murros regarding this very topic

https://www.bitchute.com/video/9TAUcXeKDPon/

[–]Brewdabier 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bavarian here, Isreal spent 80 years beating our brains in day after day to the point we (generally speaking) gave up and died inside.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Australia - not the US - is the least cucked country in the Anglosphere.

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mentally write off the anglosphere barring the US . The people of Canada, Britain, New Zealand, and Australia are simply hopeless.

People don't launch rebellions when they still have a roof over their heads and food in their bellys. They are too comfortable, and have too much to lose. The normies are still operating under the delusion that they can tough this out and bide their time, little realising that this will only make things worse. People get exactly the amount of government abuse that they are willing to tolerate. It is not until the abuse passes the point of endurance that they take action.

Lots of people in the Anglosphere are fed up with their situation, even if they aren't able to articulate precisely what is wrong and who is responsible. They lack strong leaders, and they lack the motivation. That will only change when there is an economic collapse that renders the majority of the people homeless, bankrupt, and starving. It is a sad fact of life that most people only take political action when there is no other choice. 5 minutes to midnight.

[–]Jacinda[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

SS: As mentioned I copied this post from r/BritishTraditionalism.

Unmentioned are the rise in ethnic nepotism as Britain, traditionally a high trust society, imports millions of people from low trust societies and the pressure that people, used to living in highly dense societies places on the environment.

The future is also undoubtedly going to be violent.

Vdare:

One key problem: Afghanistan’s high level of ethnic diversity. Contrary to advertisement, Diversity is not Strength. In his 2012 book Ethnic Conflicts, Finnish political scientist Tatu Vanhanen found that there was 0.66 correlation between ethnic diversity and ethnic conflict and that ethnically diverse states are almost always politically unstable and riven by war [Cont...]

As an aside, please excuse the formatting — Saidit was behaving strangely and I used a couple of workarounds in attempt to fix it. If it looks strange on your computer let me know.

[–]IkeConn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Hitler ruined it for white people.

[–]Brewdabier 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

White British Islanders will become a minority in the UK by the 2060.

Hell it will be sooner than that.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for posting because I was wondering what happened after the BritishNationalist ban. Good to see the guy who created it is much closer to our type of guy and not some slightly alienated Tory like many of the Mods were at the end.

[–]scata90x 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I predict a mass exodus of Western Europeans to Eastern Europe in a few decades.

[–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Britain really should have went with Halifax after the Dunkirk crisis.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Britain spread Jewish banking to the far corners of the earth and orchestrated both world wars. Now their grandchildren pay the price.