To alt-righters that don't live in Europe

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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

My ancestors built a country literally from scratch in the Australian continent. There was nothing here. Not a road, not a wheel, not even a farm. The inhabitants were hunter gatherers. There is no comparison with Europeans coming to a place like Australia and say a person like you who is just an immigrant who came to what was already the most advanced civilization on Earth and now just moans about Whitey and advocates for your own people at the expense of other Europeans.

This applies to European settlers in Southern Africa and North and South America as well. These countries are the legacy of the work our ancestors did. Others helped and contributed but the essential and necessary cause for every New World country of European origin is, shock horror, the Europeans who settled there.

I don't really like to focus on the moral aspect though because it's a bit silly. While I would argue that Whites have a moral right to the civilizations their ancestors built the most important aspect is power. We can talk about your right to be in Europe or our right to be in the New World but it's all beside the point because you're not going to just up and leave if I prove to you that you have no moral right to continue to be in Europe -- BTW obviously you don't. It will take an attitude shift and real power and politics to achieve what we want and then the question will be moot and to quote a fat fraud you'll just 'have to go back' whether you bloody like it or not. Or Western societies will continue to replace and demean their historic populations and they'll end up a hated minority or a vanished group only known to historians like the Picts.

God willing it will be the former.

The funny thing I can't figure out about a person like you is the seeming inability to realize that without Whites you don't get to live a comfy life as an 'Afghani Atheist' in whatever European country it is you occupy. Redundant and silly conservative talking point I know but it does still amaze me that you don't realize that advocating for more of your 'people' to come to Europe -- which you constantly do -- will eventually make Europe more like the place you fled from.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

to quote a fat fraud

Who?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Trump.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol!

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd like the option but there aren't a lot of scenarios in which I would pull the trigger.

If I was going to an area that I could have lots of open space and homesteading land I'd consider it. I'd even consider Argentina, Russia or South Africa assuming lots of like minded people were going and there was an adequate opportunity to create a Jeffersonian small agrarian farmer type lifestyle. Free farmland, open ranges, and pro white culture is really not the situation in most of Europe. I also wouldn't go if the area I'm going to is just as anti white and pozzed as the area of the US I currently reside.

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    [–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

    You won't gain anything by moving to Europe.

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      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      I am more in line with your thought process than u/NeoRail, however, most of us are not wanted back in Europe. The attitude of u/Markimus is too proliferated, and plus, you can't purchase a firearm in most places without going black market.

      I do think more like you though. I'd prefer to die over there than over here.

      [–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      It's not that Americans are not wanted in Europe. Barring some hypothetical humanitarian crisis, I can't see more than a few thousand ideologically motivated individuals moving back to Europe. I don't think that should be a problem. The issue is that most of the Americans who talk about returning to Europe want to do so for political reasons. With such cases, there is no point in coming here, because if they are not willing to oppose the neoliberals in America now, then they will not be willing to oppose the neoliberals in Europe when we reach America status at some point in the near future either.

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      Is there a movement of conservative Americans moving back to Europe? In my experience, most conservatives in America hate Europe for no good reason. Some left over bias from bygone days, I figured.

      Even if every European opened their arms to me, I'd stay here in America. I was born here, I'll fight here, I'll likely die here. However, my preference would be to die over there. Something about my visits over there has stayed with me for years, I'll never be able to shake it. I felt more at home there than I ever have here.

      [–]NeoRail 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      I know that some hard line right wingers have moved to or hope to move to Europe one day. I think even Greg Johnson wrote an article about how much more at home he felt in Poland. I might be confusing him with someone else, though. In either case, it's people like that who talk about Europe. "Conservatives" (Constitutionalist liberals) tend to subscribe to the whole boomer patriotism deal, "we are making the world safe for democracy, McDonalds and investment banking" type of stuff. These people tend to hate Europe because of the welfare state, postwar pacifism, American exceptionalism and culture clash.

      I think I understand your feelings about Europe. If there is anything else you want to visit here, I would say try to get that done soon. Just like in America, change here has been relentless, but many things still retain their character.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Ok, I see where you are coming from now. That doesn't seem unique to America though. I know a good chunk of Asians who loooove American boomer-era

      If I had the money, I'd go to the cemeteries tied to my family and pay my respects. I sadly have money only for necessities and future necessities.

      [–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I know a good chunk of Asians who loooove American boomer-era

      I think I am familiar with that phenomenon lol. Mostly Koreans, Taiwanese/HK and some Vietnamese, right?

      If I had the money, I'd go to the cemeteries tied to my family and pay my respects. I sadly have money only for necessities and future necessities.

      I am sorry to hear that. Perhaps you can ask someone from the area to leave something there on your behalf?

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      :) that's a good idea, mate.

      Yes, mostly Koreans ha! That's exactly what I was thinking of.

      [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      If you can speak Latvian fluently, almost first language level, then go for it. Otherwise I wouldn't.

      [–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I think the vast majority of Americans who talk about returning to Europe are just depressed by the political situation in America and think that they will be happier, more fulfilled, more appreciated and more prosperous in Europe. Not only is this not true, but the main motivation is in fact defeatism and cowardice, not some particularly special form of love for Europe.

      You know best if you feel yourself far more Latvian than American, but you will always carry your American upbringing with you and in certain ways, it will bar you from living as a Latvian. If you believe that you can overcome that or work around it, then you are free to go where you wish, but keep in mind that you are going to a place with a different culture, to live a brand new life. You will be abandoning everything you have built for yourself in America. If you are planning to do so because you believe the political situation in Europe is better, then it is worth noting that Europe is just one or two decades behind America and in many important aspects is actually on par with it. Everything that you hate about America, you will to a large extent also encounter in Europe, and you will see it grow with time.

      Progressive neoliberal globalism can't be avoided just by moving to Europe.

      [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Fuck off we're full!

      [–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      But we're also overfull in the US by several hundred million. We're all overfull because we're in the boom phase of the boom/bust cycle found in mammal populations.

      5 to 7 extra billion people are going to leave a mark when the bust phase finally hits. The dramatically increasing squirreliness of our societies might be an indicator that we're near the top.

      [–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      white people become hated, persecuted and genocided minorities in these former nations of theirs

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hti9COsoByg

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGMvVET7iR8

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W95ygEj7Nws

      [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I do live in Europe and I want a "right of return" for Europeans all over the world. Ideally the EU would make this a reality.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It would strengthen Europe with nationalistic ethnically proud individuals. And a lot of woke yuppies.

      [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      u/f4ture you have a warning for thread abandonment. Do it again and it's a 30 day ban.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Jumba hears that the roller-coasters in Europe are lacking despite having two of the top manufacturers in BnM and Intamin.