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[–]outrageousboote 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not only are the Irish and Italians European groups, them being considered nonwhite wasn't actually the case, it's a leftist talking point to divide whites and destroy the credibility of the white racial grouping, they were considered white by the vast majority of the population and law. Even if they were perhaps considered inferior on basis of ethnicity, they weren't on basis of race.

https://italianthro.blogspot.com/2015/02/white-on-arrival.html

[–]Fonched 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Man, that is the Godwin's law of discussion on race, whiteness and demographics. I heard that quite a lot, although I don't know how this is supposed to sway their arguments on what is considered White. There is the exclusion act that restricted these southern/Eastern European immigrants, and the question of citizenship to these people until the 1940s though. I've seen them also use this talking point to point how we also believed in a white genocide 100+ years ago, with these Irish/Italian immigrants being the replacements rather than Hispanics/MENA who they see collapsing into whiteness apparently. This is, in the meantime, a great guide as to what falls under what exactly. https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2020/08/08/what-is-white-a-guide-for-complete-novices/