How does Canada keep doing well on the PISA

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Canada uses a point system for immigration. The more educated you are, the faster your approval is.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/federal-skilled-workers/six-selection-factors-federal-skilled-workers.html

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    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    John P Rushton was a Canadian, and I believe his research already confirmed that.

    The confusing part is second or even third generation immigrations are actually rare. For example, looking at this chart on Blacks who live in Ontario, 53% are 1st gen immigrants. But only 8.3% are third gen.

    https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/89-657-x/89-657-x2019002-eng.htm

    [–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    This isn't confusing at all. Immigration from Africa to Canada is fairly recent phenomenon, generationally-speaking, and over 90% are recent immigrants.

    https://i1.wp.com/nationaleconomicseditorial.com/wp-content/uploads/canada-foreign-born-population-stats-canada.png?resize=883%2C614&ssl=1

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Canadians#Statistics

    56 per cent of Black Canadians are immigrants, 35 per cent are second generation and 9 per cent are third generation or more.

    https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2016/dp-pd/dt-td/Rp-eng.cfm?LANG=E&APATH=3&DETAIL=0&DIM=0&FL=A&FREE=0&GC=0&GID=0&GK=0&GRP=1&PID=112451&PRID=10&PTYPE=109445&S=0&SHOWALL=0&SUB=0&Temporal=2017&THEME=120&VID=0&VNAMEE=&VNAMEF=

    Born outside Canada Number
    Africa 689,630
    Caribbean and Bermuda 403,550
    Total 1,093,180 (91.2%)
    Total population from 2016 census 1,198,540(100%)

    [–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    That isn't how regression to the mean works. This is a popular misconception, which, by the way, is also used by leftists deliberately, to "debunk" race realism, eugenics or hereditarianism in general.

    If you take a group of high-IQ individuals from a race with a low average IQ and separate them from the overall population of their race, their descendants' IQs won't regress all the way back to the low average of their race, but rather regress to IQs somewhere inbetween their racial average and the high IQs of their particular ancestors in a couple of generations, and then more or less remain the same for their descendants.

    If regression to means worked in the way you think it does, evolution wouldn't even be possible in the first place, since any traits in an individual that get favored by natural selection (or eugenics) over the average traits of the race he belongs to would simply regress back to the racial average in his descendants anyways.

    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Aren't most of Canada's immigrants NE Asians and high caste sub-continentals? Also its not diversity itself that causes the low scores its having low IQ populations in that diversity. Singapore is diverse and has the highest avg IQ of any nation on earth.

    I'm not sure what it is you're confused about.

    [–]shilldetector 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Canada is like 70% white, around 10% East Asian, followed by around 6% East Indian/Pakistani, most of whom were educated professionals. As for them "returning to the mean", not sure what you are referring to. East Asians probably do better than Europeans on most academic tests so the mean is pretty high even if they were just average, which as I just pointed out they weren't when they immigrated.

    Canada does have a small black population, maybe around 3 or 4%, and an almost non existent hispanic population oddly. It's also let in a fair number of Middle Easterners the last several years. Not sure what is confusing you really. The vast majority of Canadas population comes from nations that tend to do fairly well on academic and probably IQ tests, and Canada has a very good education system, certainly better than the US's.

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      [–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I went to Canada for the 1st time the Christmas before last (Quebec, Montreal & Toronto) and you’re right Toronto is by far the worst city I’ve ever seen in the West, demographically. It’s shocking, and I thought I had it bad when I lived in London…

      Québec’s great though, it’s just like a much(!) colder version of rural France

      [–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Canada is very diverse and as of the latest census probably only 65% white

      What data are you using to make that conclusion?

      the country lets in like 500k indians and africans every single year

      No. The annual reports to Parliament on immigration detail the number and origins of the immigrants. Canada had 184,370 immigrants in 2020, 341,180 immigrants in 2019, and 321,035 immigrants in 2018. Most immigrants came from India, China, and the Phillipines.

      [–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Is that ‘net’ or total migration? In the UK the government messes with the numbers by subtracting all the white expats that leave for places like Australia, so they can present a number ~300,000 rather than the reality of ~600,000 (not that 300,000 isn’t insanely high anyway).

      [–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Canada is very diverse and as of the latest census probably only 65% white

      What data are you using to make that conclusion?

      These graphs seems to indicate that, although I'd be more certain saying 70% instead.

      23.9% are new immigrants + 17.7% 2nd generation = 40% of total population are recent immigrants. Obviously not all new and 2nd generation immigrants are non-White but probably 75% are, which would make this value 30%, and the White population 70%.

      Change in immigration source area. If we got back 2 generations, in 1971, non-White immigration was about 10% of the total, now it's 75%, and recent immigration from US and Britain is hard to determine the racial classification since these are also proposition nations. Even checking the "Canadian" box as their ethnicity makes this unclear.

      2016 census has Europeans as 72.9% of total population.

      Mortality data. Says 267,213 died in 2016. So if we go with 1/4 million deaths per year and

      In 2016, there were more male deaths (135,772) than female deaths (131,441) (Figure 2).

      For males, three-quarters (75%) of deaths occurred at age 65 or older, compared with 84% for females.

      So 75% of 135,722 is 101,791, and 84% of 131,441 is 110,410, sum is 212,201. Demographically most people over 65 in Canada are probably White but let's just say it's 80%. New value is 169,760. Over 5 years since 2016 this is 848,804 elderly White Canadians that have passed away from the census total of 35,151,728. As a percent this is 2.4%.

      If we go by visible minority population, 2016 census listed 26,785,480 Canadians as not a visible minority. Minus the 848k deaths and add at least 270k from 2016, 300k in 2017 (est.), 320k from 2018 (2019 value less 6%), and 341,180 in 2019 and 2020, this is 1.272M immigrants since 2016. So non-visible minority Canadians now number 25,936,676, while visible minorities equal the difference from the 2016 census of 35,151,728 + 1.272M from immigration, which is 10,487,052 or 28% of that sum, putting White Canadians at about 72%.

      In 2019, Canada achieved its highest level of permanent resident admissions in recent history with 341,180 admissions,Footnote26 which is 6.3% higher than in 2018.

      This article indicates that the visible minority population may be underestimated

      With new targets of 400k immigrants per year, combined with the upcoming boomer die-off, there will be a rapid demographic change.

      https://www.cicnews.com/2020/10/canada-to-release-2021-2023-immigration-levels-plan-1016133.html

      If we got by language, then in 2016 22.94% spoke a language that wasn't English or French which is in line with the visible minority population estimates.

      So the 65% number might be a bit low, but it's definitely in the ball park, especially with the number of mixed Canadians and the ambiguity of multiple responses. I would say it's definitely at or approaching at least 70% now.