Alt-right and Mugabe

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I don't even like the guy, I'm a fascist and he's some kind of theocratic Traditionalist/Reactionary or some shit. I just find these ignorant assertions about him annoying as fuck because of how stupid they are.

You realise Dugin hysteria was invented by fucking Glenn Beck right? You're mouthing some stupid ass boomercon talking point, you might as well be talking about Marxist businesses or some other equally retarded boomercon talking point.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I don't even like the guy, I'm a fascist and he's some kind of theocratic Traditionalist/Reactionary or some shit. I just find these ignorant assertions about him annoying as fuck because of how stupid they are.

Then why do care so much when people criticize Dugin. You apparently don't like Dugin, your worldviews are different, and the assertions of him are stupid anyways, so it wouldn't make sense for you to defend Dugin so much.

You realise Dugin hysteria was invented by fucking Glenn Beck right? You're mouthing some stupid ass boomercon talking point, you might as well be talking about Marxist businesses or some other equally retarded boomercon talking point.

Do you really think Dugin didn't actually say those things in the quote I shared? Assuming he did say those things, this means he's very anti-white. How am I supposed to know about Glenn Beck and him inventing the Dugin hysteria(?), I haven't really looked that much into the Dugin stuff.

I'm pro-white, and I just see that someone is anti-white, that's more than enough reason for me to hate that person. If being pro-white, and hating anti-whites regardless of what other views they may hold besides being anti-white (or who their allies and enemies are), makes me a "stupid ass boomercon", then so be it, but by that logic over half of this sub would be "stupid ass boomercons" as well.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yes more than half of this sub are retarded, that's no excuse for you to indulge also. I care about telling people to stop being retarded because I want to help our guys be smart enough to win.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I agree that if over half of the sub was retarded this shouldn't give me a free pass for being retarded as well, but I don't see how hating anti-white political figures for being anti-white (even if they share a common enemy with us and/or agree with us on most non-racial issues) is retarded, unless you're not actually pro-white. Being a boomercon would be hating someone who is clearly pro-white just because he's left-leaning on economic issues and calling him a socialist/communist shill for it, not hating an anti-white for being anti-white.

I think working with people and movements that literally want to destroy our race (like Dugin, Mugabe, black supremacists in America, Muslim migrants in Europe, etc.) just to defeat a common enemy will usually just bite you in the back, and should only be done with a lot of caution and only if the benefits for us outweigh the costs. I'm curious to hear your perspective on this.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

but I don't see how hating anti-white political figures for being anti-white (even if they share a common enemy with us and/or agree with us on most non-racial issues) is retarded, unless you're not actually pro-white.

So all you care about is white people? So you'd be fine under a hostile occupation of the most evil white capitalists that behave exactly like jews? You're fine with liberalism? You'd be fine under an all-white communism? These things with racial incoherence are obviously worse but these things are destroying our people's soul a LOT more than the demographic situation is. People were writing about the disastrous anti-social elements of modernity long before any of our countries started getting immigration.

Look at what he calls white, do you identify with those things and desire them? They represent literally everything good people, He's referring to the white/western world (capitalism/liberalism/modernity), I don't know if he's being intentionally provocative or if it's a misquote or what but if you actually read the quote you can see what he's referring to quite easily lol. Every white man should hate the white world if that is what the white world is defined as.

I think working with people and movements that literally want to destroy our race (like Dugin, Mugabe, black supremacists in America, Muslim migrants in Europe, etc.) just to defeat a common enemy will usually just bite you in the back, and should only be done with a lot of caution and only if the benefits for us outweigh the costs. I'm curious to hear your perspective on this.

None of these groups have the possibility of doing any harm to our race because they could never possibly have power over us. The only group that is a threat to us is jews, all the others only become threats when jews are already in power. I couldn't give less of a shit what black nationalists think about white people because when jews are gone what are they gonna do? Throw stone spears at us? They can help us get our liberation at which point we'll obviously have absolutely all of the leverage, even if they desired with every ounce of their being to oppose us they couldn't possibly hope to come close. The same goes for literally every group within our borders, jews are the only threat to us.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So all you care about is white people? So you'd be fine under a hostile occupation of the most evil white capitalists that behave exactly like jews? You're fine with liberalism? You'd be fine under an all-white communism?

No, I don't just care about white people, stop putting words in my mouth. However, white people are what I care most about. If I supported liberalism or communism as long as it was all-white, I couldn't be genuinely pro-white in the first place because those things harm white people and being pro-white requires opposing whatever harms white people.

If you've paid attention, I quite often talk about how anti-white whites shouldn't be treated as white just because they're genetically white, but rather as enemy combatants just like non-white anti-whites, so obviously I wouldn't support liberalism or communism just because it's all-white.

Opposing anything and anyone that's anti-white doesn't equal being okay with or supporting anything no matter how immoral or harmful to whites as long as it's white. Putting your race above ideology doesn't equal not caring about ideology and non-racial issues whatsoever.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, I don't just care about white people, stop putting words in my mouth. However, white people are what I care most about. If I supported liberalism or communism as long as it was all-white, I couldn't be genuinely pro-white in the first place because those things harm white people and being pro-white requires opposing whatever harms white people.

So you're in agreeance with Dugin then, you also don't like what he refers to as the White World. Dugin is quite the fan of Medieval Europe for example which was obviously all white, if we know these 2 data points we know he's not anti-white in the sense that you're pro-white. He's anti-'White' in the sense that you are also, you both hate the soulless materialistic world that is in fact itself anti-white.

If you've paid attention, I quite often talk about how anti-white whites shouldn't be treated as white just because they're genetically white, but rather as enemy combatants just like non-white anti-whites, so obviously I wouldn't support liberalism or communism just because it's all-white.

I don't pay attention to usernames most the time.

Opposing anything and anyone that's anti-white doesn't equal being okay with or supporting anything no matter how immoral or harmful to whites as long as it's white. Putting your race above ideology doesn't equal not caring about ideology and non-racial issues whatsoever.

Agreed. Now let's focus on researching and spreading information on relevant people who have power over us instead of random powerless civilians thousands of miles away.

For example send this to every person from the UK you know to inform them on who actually has power over them.