Debate youtube channel

submitted by DragonerneJesus is white from self.debatealtright

https://www.youtube.com/c/PoliticallyProvoked/videos

It has an active discord (yes protect yourself), it allows far righters to debate normies live and on stream (you dont have to reveal face, protect yourself).

It's pretty funny to watch and as usual the right wingers dominate the debates. The host (Britanny) is a natural alt righter and it is clear that she has been indoctrinated, but she has been slowly getting red pilled for the past 6 months. It is fun to watch the transition lol

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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Feels like only yesterday the number one trending video on YouTube was inevitably some form of altright debate. Fuck the internet is a dull wasteland now.

(Thx for the channel. Looks good.)

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I watched parts of two videos. Andrew holds his own. Reminds me a little of the old bloodsports era. This channel won't be up for much longer so I wouldn't get to excited about it. Youtube loves to kill channels like this when they hit any type of critical mass of exposure.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The videos have like 200 views. The SPLC is already involved :)

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Destiny vs Far Right Andrew on immigration and demographic change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhGDxUYkf4Y

[–]SamiAlHayyidGrand Mufti Imam Sheikh Professor Al Hadji Dr. Sami al-Hayyid 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yeah, this channel practically came out of nowhere, but now it's quite popular in various circles who only share in common that they're politically engaged.

The only up and coming personality I follow who has been on there is Zoltanous.

MartinezPerspective also claimed in his last Q&A that he'd be willing to debate someone on there if they ever send him a message to arrange something, but nothing has yet became of that.

At the moment they've got plenty of progs and far-leftists. Need more of all the other groups. I think I've seen one libertarian. I can think of only three people who could fairly be considered "our" guys.

How did that channel get started? Just a genuine interest in bringing people with conflicting views together for the viewer's entertainment?

[–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

MartinezPerspective

The channel would get nuked if he ever came on. Even his bitchute channel is banned from all of Europe.
Twitch has strict rules and all of his opinions are not allowed to be spoken there. He would definitely crush the debates and leave his opponents with only insults left, but I don't know if it would be productive.

Ill have to check out Zoltanous.

I think Miyo and Big Papa Fascist are as close to our guys as you'll get on family friendly youtube/twitch. I don't know if they are alt right, but they are advocating for much of the same. The overlap is definitely there but they've managed to present our goals (no immigration, pro family, pro higher birth rate, etc) in a manner that doesn't allow leftists to use their usual slurs on them, although they still try.

Basically they argue from the position that immigration hurts all Americans, blacks, natives and whites alike. They don't want mexicans in the country because it is replacement migration of all Americans, and they argue that the culture has changed too much too fast due to the white replacement which they dont think is good etc.

Edit: https://youtu.be/gSnVsdq4ej4?t=5198
Sondsol correctly classifies miyos position as a rebranding, which it is, and miyo laughs it off. He can't outright pinpoint anything miyo said, of course, so he has to call it a rebranding.

How did that channel get started? Just a genuine interest in bringing people with conflicting views together for the viewer's entertainment?

Not sure, I think they had a small facebook group, then they moved to discord and started getting more organised, with panels and hosts and such. Just found the channel myself recently by accident.

[–]SamiAlHayyidGrand Mufti Imam Sheikh Professor Al Hadji Dr. Sami al-Hayyid 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah. That being said, plenty of BitChute channels are blocked in the stupid EU. I clicked on some random channel in a comment section and the reason for which it was blocked in the EU was something like "Terrorism and Violent Extremism". I never heard of the user handle before, and it was probably a nobody. By contrast, Martinez's channel "only" has "hate speech" and one other reason provided for the block.

I didn't know they used Twitch. I'm well aware of their censoriousness. Even that noxious Infrared channel was suspended from there.

Zoltanous actually went against Infrared on there. I didn't watch it, and the followers of both sides predictably said that their respective guy won. I'm not big on video content and only watch a select few people consistently, so I have no opinion on who won.

Zoltanous is much more like BPF than Martinez. Zoltanous also privately went against Martinez on the latter's livestream but there I felt that Martinez was the obvious winner, with Zoltanous sticking too closely to this "fascist" ideology thing whereas Martinez is much less ideological and much more compelling to me. Martinez can also keep a level head when need be, whereas Zoltanous lost his temper both against Martinez, effectively "rage quitting", and much more recently in a rant against some admittedly very "toxic" people who found his remarks (admittedly, I think these remarks were in poor taste) about the holodomor with Richard Spencer intolerable.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Miyo is definitely /ourguy/ but just "dishonest" about it.

[–]SamiAlHayyidGrand Mufti Imam Sheikh Professor Al Hadji Dr. Sami al-Hayyid 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's worth mentioning that it's come to fruition—MartinezPerspective is apparently going to talk with Politically Provoked tomorrow, and then get into some debates later on. It's great news, since he's an educated and intelligent content creator who has authored numerous books, and yet does not give a 'nerdish' vibe. He also has plenty of practice since he has had some serious conversations with many Omegle users sometimes going for an hour or so. For me, this is great news.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Interesting, I'll look out for that.

[–]SamiAlHayyidGrand Mufti Imam Sheikh Professor Al Hadji Dr. Sami al-Hayyid 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEVLIAzlnHA

Odysee: https://odysee.com/@martinezperspective:2/Interview-with-Martinez-Perspective-video:0

He conducted himself pretty well, though he could have had a more concise definition for the 'Great Replacement' and 'race realism'.

I'd say, for example, that race realism is at its simplest the belief that race is real. More accurately, it refers to a belief-system in which race is regarded at the very least as an objective category—it doesn't matter what the specific beliefs contained within it are so long as they lead to that conclusion, though they usually are overwhelmingly biological-psychological.

Race denialism refers either to the absence of such a belief-system, or a belief-system in which race is actively disregarded as real (e.g. as a 'social construct').

I mostly agree with the views he expressed throughout. I'd be Rightward of him on feminism, though interestingly I think that even though he seems slightly more moderate on that, he places too much focus on it. For me, feminism is a surface-level problem rather than a root-level problem, and I'm not for focusing on surface-level problems. I'm also much less pan-European, though it's obvious that all Europeans share the same enemies at the current time and therefore should fight against them together. Obviously these are trivial differences.

Hopefully some Leftoids get wrecked soon.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Feminism limits the dating market for right wing men. Its definitely more than a surface level problem.

[–]FoxySDTWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The host (Britanny) is a natural alt righter and it is clear that she has been indoctrinated

What makes you say that? She labels herself as leftwing in some videos and she liked all pro-Destiny comments on this one. What do you think is alt-right about her?

[–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Watch some videos from 8 months ago with Big Papa Fascist and her as a host. She will insert herself and ask all kinds of questions to challenge him and she is clearly left wing (but not the dishonest type), now watch some of the videos from the past few weeks with either miyo or big papa fascist, and you will see her challenge the left wingers, (basically begging them for answers to satisfy her own doubt). She mentions that she has been redpilled by BPF and miyo on some topics in one of the vids I saw, in another she praised BPF and said he demolished all the early debates and they had to find better left wingers to debate him, and you can see now suddenly they have left wing youtubers coming to debate miyo or big papa fascist. She seems receptive to alt right ideas, she is definitely still a left winger, but even leftists are starting to get annoyed at her, saying she laughs at alt right jokes etc, (you know how leftists act lol)

She isn't alt right, but eventually she will be.