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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Same poll showed like 17% of libtards are as well, along with the conservatards.

If you extrapolate it to the racial demographics of each party it's probably more or less that about 25% of white people generally are pro-white nationalist, regardless of who they vote for, which is consistent with other polling we've seen.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's a fair estimate. In 2017, a pole showed 11% of whites harboring WN views. After 4 years of negrolatry and radical anti-whiteness, its not a stretch to assume that number doubling.

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thats a pretty significant shift in just 4 years. Its an encouraging sign, although the numbers would be even greater if it wasn't for massive social engineering (and censorship). Still, the fact that very few people who hold these views are willing to publicly voice them is disappointing. The Deep State have managed to impose an enormous social stigma on those who espouse WN views.

[–]peaceful 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The number is probably only half that who would support a white ethnostate, and a very tiny minority who would speak out in favor of white nationalism. Damning numbers in my opinion.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nah it's the other way around. We already have 25% of the population who agree with us despite us having literally 0 power and cultural influence. Once we have some clout and influence these people will be early adopters and quickly will become our supporters once it's safe to do so. They don't need to be the vanguard.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wouldn't say we have 0 cultural influence. We're punching way above our weight.

[–]Bored123123 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is a blackpill, these numbers wouldve been higher 30 years ago. Nothing happened even with higher support.

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Reminds me of this speech https://odysee.com/@NationalJusticeParty:8/Conservatives-The-Bane-of-National-Revival:8

Historically, it has been observed that 25% is the critical mass in case of most political movements. As soon as these 25% start making some noise, the ideology goes mainstream. This is the tricky part. They will have to speak up explicitly in support of white nationalism. I believe they will in the near future. GOP will have no choice but to support the policy in order to stay relevant. Give it a few more years and you'll see ex-conservatives gone white nationalists.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yep this was something I used to talk about on our subs when I started studying grassroots revolutionary movements.

The problem we're faced with today is that there isn't the necessary social capital to act as protection for the activist vanguard tasked with awakening the consciousness of other potential comrades as well as it just being there in order to allow the ideas to spread like wildfire.

In the ideal world every racially conscious white man could join as many associations as possible and spread our ideas into them freely. The issue though, of course, is the associated risk and the struggle to get the rapport within these associations to be able to influence the members. You will be met with resistance and probably kicked out by the planted libtards that gatekeep basically every single association nowadays, they're in every single type of group specifically to stop the rise of any organic resistance to the current elite. Whether it's your union, hobby group, sports club etc doesn't really matter these HR types are literally everywhere to fuck things up for any kind of grassroots organising and it only takes one of them to pressure and intimidate the whole group with the threat of doxing, losing their job etc. To get around this you'd need first a safety net IE a job that won't be affected by doxing and and a social network of /ourguys/ to support you.

I think in order to be successful we're going to need an organisation that can get all its members employment as well as comradeship in their local area so they aren't vulnerable to the system (much easier said than done I know). Through this organisation members can coordinate to local association groups that they will have multiple members join in order to try to convert them. I will give an example: you have say 3 racially conscious guys join the same hobby group and begin spreading our ideas. The goal would be obviously to pull 25% of the group into the clique and have them flip the majority of the group into accepting our ideas. Some of the more dedicated members of the group can be recruited into the organisation and will be encouraged to do the same thing in any other groups they're in. We would start in places we think will be more receptive to our ideas like sports, outdoor activities etc. Eventually this process will happen more and more on its own rather than having to have organised nationalists attempting to flip the groups they're part of.

Patriot Front as an example has thousands of guys, if some of their members essentially 'brigaded' small-ish local groups and were able to successfully bypass the libtard gatekeepers and convert the majority of the members of the groups into being racially conscious we could see great positive outcomes. In Weimar Germany there were National Socialist dog groomers, bowling clubs etc, all kinds of associations that were explicitly Volkisch which was how the German revolution was made possible.

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Indeed, PF is doing good and so is Patriotic Alternative of UK led by Mark Collett. PA does many group activities and they have been growing lately.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's why they're stepping up censorship and illegal immigration so radically and pumping out so many conservative shills with semi-WN views. Its possible that the intel agencies have more alarming info on such matters.

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think we have already crossed the critical mass. The actual number is around 30%, give or take. That's a massive percentage if true. The reason why we don't feel it yet is because people fear the consequences of speaking up (so ironic as our enemies claim to love democracy). The elites know that when people will start speaking up, which will happen in the near future, white nationalism will spread like wildfire. Massive progress will be made in a very few time.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People aren't afraid to speak up in Denmark, but the dynamic is a bit different here and its not really WN, but danish nationalism with various definitions of "danish".

[–]Nombre27 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's a big whitepill

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That number will only go up.

[–]scormac1752 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We can only hope.

[–]IkeConn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you have ever seen a black run shithole like Haiti You would be a white nationalist also even if you were black.

[–]scormac1752 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The potential benefit to whites is literally the only reason I'm still voting for Republicans. The moment the last of that usefulness ends is the moment I stop voting for them.

[–]Brewdabier 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's some shit for brains logic.

[–]peaceful 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why don't you support white nationalism?

[–]Brewdabier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did I say I don't ?, really shouldn't assume anything.

[–]SamiAlHayyidGrand Mufti Imam Sheikh Professor Al Hadji Dr. Sami al-Hayyid 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Aren't these surveys seem to be getting these results with all races of men as well? Since it is unlikely that many men external to an ethnic group would be partial to the ethnonationalism of that ethnic group, surely these figures are higher among Whites only?

Of course, such results seem to totally contradict commonsense. WN is practically non-existent outside of Leftist nightmares, which is why they have to constantly expand the criteria of what constitutes WN so that they can then apply the label to all sorts of political opponents, like Trump. Hence we have this bogeyman Trump, a "WN" who hires Mexicans, dates black women, coauthors a book with a Japanese man and owns property as far away as India. Hilariously, Trump has way more connections with non-whites than practically all of those smug leftists who call him a WN. He even has a quasi-cult of Indian worshippers, who deify him. Doesn't seem very "racist" to me.

How are they defining the criteria that indicate sympathy with WN? Surely there's some trickery going on, such that all sorts of men are just being regarded as "implicitly" WN. Unless something explicit like support for an ethnostate is asked, it is too big a jump to say that there is X percentage of WN sympathizers among any group of men.

[–]Poclurker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

And only about half of GOP women who were surveyed expressed any positive views of white nationalists compared to their male counterparts.

How are you going to get white women on board? If you guys ever establish an ethnostate is there going to be only 1 woman for every 2 men? Just look at countries in eastern Europe. They're bleeding young women. They can't wait to get out. How will you solve this?

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We don't care. Women follow strength. They will naturally become nationalists when nationalism grows and recaptures institutions, and when that happens they will act like they were always pro white and pro monogamy.

Eastern European women want to run to the west because western liberalism promises women a warped form of happiness in the form of feminism, daddy government, and no repercussions for sleeping around and cucking men. Women fall for propaganda very very easily. There's very little counter propaganda to globohomo narcissicm and consumerism.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Reminder, French women had a huge baby boom with occupying German troops from 1940-1944. They all suddenly became French nationalists and liberal democrats when the allies landed in Normandy.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

French women had a huge baby boom with occupying German troops from 1940-1944.

Based!

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

and when that happens they will act like they were always pro white and pro monogamy.

I laughed because its just so absolutely true. It will be a one-day transition too

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

women are lemmings. They will follow the wind. If whites built an ethnostate in the US. Hordes of self proclaimed conservatives and liberals would soon follow as the remnants of the US would become a full south africa style Latino-negro state.