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[–]Fonched 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I've posted about this in another thread, but does anyone here have any other counters to the claims that this does not influence kids to be LGBT, as it is not a choice and they will start feeling these emotions themselves?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The important part isn't whether it makes children gay or not -- though I'd argue in a culture that is more accepting of such things and praises that identity more children will likely indulge in such behaviour -- the most important part is the sexualization of children which was a major post-war project in Western Europe which was, as acknowledged by many of the 'scientists' who headed the programs, a form of 'anti-fascist' social engineering. Please see this article which I posted the other day which describes the activity of a 'sexologist' named Kentler who was a German homosexual, child rapist and anti-fascist.

He oversaw a West German project which actively sought to provide young boys to known pedophiles specifically because men like his 'inspiration' Wilhelm Reich and other Freudian nutcases had theorized that Fascism or the Fascist disposition -- later renamed the 'authoritarian personality' by the Frankfurt School -- was a result of neurosis caused by childhood sexual repression and that the cure to all this was the sexualization of children and the general population. Nothing has changed and these ghoulish experiments have just taken on different forms including what we're seeing today. The real question is why time and time again you see the same types of people trying to place sex at the front and center of a childs life not whether they will become gay or not.

The answer to that question as to why this do this, so succinctly summarized in the New Yorker article I posted, is to 'prevent another Auschwitz'.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed, though yes, everyone still agrees that it makes people acceptiong of these lifestyles spreading. The big point they make, however is that LGBTs today cannot stick to the propaganda because they grew up watching straight representation in media as I've said. Excellent article too, it does show how widespread it can be and what the endpoint really is. What a disgusting experiment and reality of our world it is.

Back to the Gonzo issue, many people were also concerned about how putting a male in a dress was considered "oversexualized" and tried to explain that it was not. Any thoughts on that?

[–]Jacinda 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Abigail Shrier argues a peer contagion model in her book Irreversible Damage, at least in the instance of teenage girls.

Quillete:

Between 2016 and 2017, the number of females seeking gender surgery quadrupled in the United States. Thousands of teen girls across the Western world are not only self-diagnosing with a real dysphoric condition they likely do not have; in many cases, they are obtaining hormones and surgeries following the most cursory diagnostic processes.

Schoolteachers, therapists, doctors, surgeons, and medical-accreditation organizations are all rubber-stamping these transitions, often out of fear that doing otherwise will be reported as a sign of “transphobia”—despite growing evidence that most young people who present as trans will eventually desist, and so these interventions will do more harm than good. [Cont...]

Scott Howard's The Transgender Industrial Complex is an alt-right take on the phenomena.

Edit: Sailer's review is also worth a read. You can find more if you search his blog over at Unz.

[–]Fonched 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have had it recommended to me in a previous thread, so I'm looking into it down the line. As a counterpoint first, I have discovered this review of the Industrial Complex book: https://medium.com/james-finn/the-transgender-industrial-complex-racist-anti-semitic-nonsense-e82edc20ef89 James Finn believes the book has a lack of evidence for transgenderism being a conspiracy, is poorly written in a lackadasical style simply taking out anger, and fails to take into account the lived experiences of transgender people which have been oppressed more than championed by many. Someone commented Shrier's book falls victim to this kind of thinking as well. How would you compare these writings to the review I posted?

Thanks for showing me Irreversible Damage anyhow. I look forward to going through each resource and its counterpoints.