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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I've not really discussed 'black' in my comments (I've discussed 'darker' or 'dark').

Groups in different countries have preferred words for this (which I think is confusing to many of us):

In the US - the preferred term is "people of color" or BIPOC

In the UK - the preferred term is "blacks" or BAME

In India - they still use the term Dalit, which is part of the political system (albeit insulting as a term)

There are many examples in other countries.

I don't like any of these terms, especially when they're used by administrators. Better terms, in my view, are: marginalized or under-represented people. This includes all skin colors, sexual preferences, religions, and whatever, while also addressing the main problem: abuses of the minority by other minorities or by the majority.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Your claim was that negro was a bad word, but I have demonstrated to you that it isn't. It is a scientific word to describe a racial group that differ genetically from other races that some would wrongly classify as the same race if we used misleading words like "black" to describe these genetically distinct groups.

Whites are underrepresented in the US government. Whitest are marginalized by the majority in power (jews) in the US through various legislation that discriminates against white people on the basis of their race.

People of color are not marginalized by the 80% people of color Biden US government adminstration, but whites are, despite being the majority in the US, because whites are marginalized and underrepresented and discriminated against on the basis of their race.

I think terms like marginalized and under-represented people are wrong words to use because they do not describe the racial problems intersecting our communities. Without an intersectional analysis of our society, we cannot understand how it works properly.

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Not to drag out the discussion, but I'd like to respond to a couple of major issues:

Your claim was that negro was a bad word, but I have demonstrated to you that it isn't.

I did not see a reliable demonstration of this, whereas I offered a number of quotations from a search for 'negro' & 'definition', demonstrating that the word, negro, is indeed offensive in all definitions, given its previous use, and it's apparent that those who use the word, negro, hate blacks and/or people of color. (I'd be surprised if you claimed that you genuinely don't hate or dislike blacks.).

Whites are underrepresented in the US government. Whitest are marginalized by the majority in power (jews).

This is very difficult to discuss because the Jewish US politicians list themselves as 'white'. Moreover, there are pro-Israel US politicians who are 'white'. An impressive project at DAR, or which could be arranged by /u/Jesus would be a study of the number of Jewish and partialy Jewish members in the US government, while also studying pro-Israel politicians. A 'free speech' website like Saidit can do this rather well.

But technically, your comment is not correct for the US Congress:

https://www.statista.com/chart/18905/us-congress-by-race-ethnicity/

Or for the US population, which is 60.3% 'non-hispanic white'.

Interestingly, those most outspoken against Israel tend to me non-white.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I did not see a reliable demonstration of this, whereas I offered a number of quotations from a search for 'negro' & 'definition', demonstrating that the word, negro, is indeed offensive in all definitions, given its previous use, and it's apparent that those who use the word, negro, hate blacks and/or people of color. (I'd be surprised if you claimed that you genuinely don't hate or dislike blacks.).

As I said in the very next sentence it is a scientific term to describe a racial group of people. This can by itself not be an offensive word. I reject any of your definitions or quotes. I care about what I think and what you think, not what someone else might think or do.
You are literally on the most far right debate space that I've been able to find, so if we are not using the word in an offensive manner, then I really wonder which group it is you mean that is using negro as a negative term.
It is like saying you shouldn't call a dog a dog, because someone might use it in a negative context. It doesn't make the word dog negative... It is simply what a dog is; a dog.
A negro is simply a negro. Is it really negative to be negro!? Do you claim this? Can you not see how insanely racist it is to say that the term negro is a negative term? It is their fucking racial identity for gods sake, sorry for the language but I tend to get heated.

I don't hate or dislike "blacks". Others in the alt right might, but I think they are misguided. I unironically love diversity but I completely reject and hate LIES and DECEPTION; political correctness - fake politeness.
Black is a misleading word, which is why I don't like that word. It has poor scientific utility. It is used by liars to deceive the low IQ masses, because it makes them think of races as skin color, which is simply not true. You can literally have white skin and be "black".

This is very difficult to discuss because the Jewish US politicians list themselves as 'white'.

Yes, this is another way for them to marginalize whites. This allows them to take up white spots so that it looks like whites are well-represented, while they aren't.
Take the Biden administration. Out of the 25 mentioned on wikipedia, 5 are whites and 7 are jews. It looks like 12 are "whites" which is around half, so from the naive look whites don't look to be particularly underrepresented, but a closer inspection shows that they are only 5 out of 25, while they ought to be many many more with a fair representation.