Simone Biles' withdrawal is more impressive than winning

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

This has absolutely nothing to do with the color of her skin.

My view is that she should not have gone to Tokyo if she was not prepared to support her colleagues at all costs.

One can discuss this without the superfluous racist POS comments.

[–]Bagarmoossen 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

If it were a white woman and not a female negro press jews wouldn't be worshiping it like this. Race has everything to do with this episode.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Negro is obviously a racist term.

Jews don't worship anything blacks do.

News media focus on Simone because they know people want to read about what happened to a world champion. This has also happened with news of white women.

The only problem here is that they are too nice in their comments (and they'd also be nice to a white woman).

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Negro is obviously a racist term.

No, its not. Not everyone who is black is a negro.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Is there a special KKK committee that determines to whom the word 'negro' applies? It's an old racist term, give its original and current connotations. Your use of it identifies you as someone who hates people who don't look like you.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Negro is a racial classification used to a subset of subsaharan africans.
You've people from Australia, southern india and africa that are all blacks but they are not all negros, because they belong to different races.
A black indian isn't a negro. I think the term is dravidian but I could be wrong

I don't see any negative connotations to the word. The fact that you do makes only one of us a racist. How is it negative to be a negro? Is it negative to be white? Do you realize how condescending you sound right now? Mocking an entire race of people.

Black is a bad term because it refers to someone skin color instead of their race. You end up generalizing people based on skin color, which gives the wrong impression. Suddenly a black from india is grouped with a black from africa for no other reason than their skin color, despite them being from different races.
Its clearly a bad term and its pretty racist to use the word black. You're essentially identifying them by condensing them to their skin color only, how dehumanizing.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Thanks for the info, though here's the rub:

Rather than value the opinions of racists about the definition of 'negro', search for the words: 'negro' and 'definition'. What you'll see is:

"OFFENSIVE * DATED"

"Anthropology. (no longer in technical use) a member of the peoples traditionally classified as the Negro race, especially those who originate in sub-Saharan Africa."

"Older Use: Often Offensive. a Black person."

"The term can be construed as offensive, inoffensive, or completely neutral, largely depending on the region or country where it is used. "

"Negro is a word that was used in the past to refer to someone with dark skin who comes from Africa or whose ancestors came from Africa [offensive, old-fashioned]"

"Back in the 1700's and 1800's when a slave master wanted to summon his slave. Negro go pick my cotton."

There are no definitions online that indicate that your definition is acceptable. So, why would you insist on your definition, instead of the general approaches to that definition? Why do you value the word, negro? Is this because you hate these people?

As for India (and some other parts of Asia) and their opinions of darker skin people: there are 100s of millions of there who dislike darker skin, and are often insulting to people with darker skin, especially in central, northern and metropolitan areas. Women often try to lighten their skin. Part of this also related to the caste system. The lowest castes are Dalits, and they tend to have darker skin. But the main reason Dalits are discriminated against is because they work in menial jobs. The Brits called them untouchables. Thus, whereas the color of skin is judged in India, one of the reasons for this - as in the US - is because of the long tradition of their lower incomes, in general. And in both countries, there are many darker skinned people who are highly successful.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

http://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/jarawa39_600_landscape.jpg
https://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Dalit-qawwal-band-Siddarth-Kala-Jattha-from-Beed-Dikshabhumi-Nagpur-Parivartan-Din-celebration.jpg

These are black people, but only because of their skin color, not their race. They are not from subsaharan africa and they are not negros. They are indians with black skin, thats it.

To use the word black to describe a race is misleading because you start grouping indians together with negros. Two different races.

Look at this picture:
https://cpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com/portfolio.newschool.edu/dist/f/12282/files/2016/10/NN11478726-2kbh46u.jpg
Then look at this picture:
https://adventurebagging.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/blogger/-9UtcYuQtfYo/Vhj8n_gAmSI/AAAAAAAANv0/2DuMudQB-qM/s640/simon-dad-tufi-papua-new-guinea.jpg

These could both be "blacks" but these two groups are the MOST genetically distant groups on the planet. Do you understand that? You wont find two groups that are more distant to each other than these two and yet people using the word "black" to describe races would easily put these two groups into the same racial category, which makes no sense at all.

On the other hand, using the word negro would properly describe these groups as distinct from each other.

Some person wrote the information that you are quoting and I disagree with what that person wrote. Using "black" is much more racist than using the word negro, which is a proper technical term that describe a known racial group.

I don't really care about your stories of india. They don't matter to the use of the word negro, which is a good word - much better than the word black.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I've not really discussed 'black' in my comments (I've discussed 'darker' or 'dark').

Groups in different countries have preferred words for this (which I think is confusing to many of us):

In the US - the preferred term is "people of color" or BIPOC

In the UK - the preferred term is "blacks" or BAME

In India - they still use the term Dalit, which is part of the political system (albeit insulting as a term)

There are many examples in other countries.

I don't like any of these terms, especially when they're used by administrators. Better terms, in my view, are: marginalized or under-represented people. This includes all skin colors, sexual preferences, religions, and whatever, while also addressing the main problem: abuses of the minority by other minorities or by the majority.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Your claim was that negro was a bad word, but I have demonstrated to you that it isn't. It is a scientific word to describe a racial group that differ genetically from other races that some would wrongly classify as the same race if we used misleading words like "black" to describe these genetically distinct groups.

Whites are underrepresented in the US government. Whitest are marginalized by the majority in power (jews) in the US through various legislation that discriminates against white people on the basis of their race.

People of color are not marginalized by the 80% people of color Biden US government adminstration, but whites are, despite being the majority in the US, because whites are marginalized and underrepresented and discriminated against on the basis of their race.

I think terms like marginalized and under-represented people are wrong words to use because they do not describe the racial problems intersecting our communities. Without an intersectional analysis of our society, we cannot understand how it works properly.