Canada is accelerating White Genocide. Government boasts 421,000 immigrants a year in new target.

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[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

Where's the lie in what I wrote? I'll take whatever allies we can find but I'm not hopeful for boomers to do a 180 before they disappear.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Without the internet I would've never been redpilled. Never.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

You, just like people in every single generation that came before you, think you know the answer. The solutions. You don't.

The boomers tried "peace and love" to end war. Did it work? Nope. Your intergenerational hatred isn't a solution either.

But the point remains that every generation believes it's much better than the previous ones, that they know the solutions, and goes on to fail miserably, only to be blamed once they are in their senior years, by the younger generations.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

I have no stake in this argument at all, but you are wrong. No two generations have the exact same amount of courage, virtue, willpower and discipline. Some have a lot, others very little. This much is abundantly clear. This does not mean that people should seethe at the very mention of the word "boomer", but to promote false ideas is also wrong. Some generations are idealistic, others materialistic. Some are mature, others immature. Some are sober, others dissolute, etc. etc.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

I never said anything to the contrary. The one constant I named is that every generation thinks it's better than the previous ones. And this is demonstrably false.

[–]NeoRail 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You said a bit more than that. You specifically said that every generation vows to do better and then "goes on to utterly fail". That is wrong. Some generations do much, much better than the ones before them and the ones after them. The way you phrased this next part can also be interpreted in a similar way:

You, just like people in every single generation that came before you, think you know the answer. The solutions. You don't.

This is perhaps the most typical liberal boomer cope. "Sure, our solutions are a disaster, but everything else is worse, so know your place and conform." It's the exact type of reasoning conservative liberals use to prop up their ideology all over the western world. It's a form of demoralisation designed to discourage young people from trying to do better, by convincing them that they simply can't. I know my answers and my solutions. If you think that you do not, what are you doing busying yourself with politics? Go buy Jordan Peterson's Twelve Rules for Life and start climbing those hierarchies, make some money - that kind of thing.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Oh man. I have read that book of Peterson's. It's good advice, given by a very smart, wise and educated man who, due to being atop his Ivory Tower of scholarly life, is irremediably naive. "Hierarchies of competence" ROFLMAO. That's Jewspeak for "know your place, goy".

On a more serious note: YOU are stating that "the boomer solutions" are a disaster. I say there are no such thing as "boomer solutions". Each generation is brainwashed differently, and each behaves according to that brainwashing. How many zoomers lap up the Greta Thunberg bullshit? Environmental psychosis, the GenZ disease. I'm sure that will create amazing solutions such as feeding people on bugs and similar insanity.

Brainwash a Zoomer exactly like a Boomer was, and this Zoomer will approve of what the Boomers did. The Boomers didn't do anything WRONG: they were told the oceans could not possibly get polluted, EVER, NO MATTER WHAT THEY DID, that growth COULD be infinite, that machines WOULD allow future generations to work 10-hour weeks. IT'S WHAT THEY WORKED FOR. FOR THE FUTURE GENERATIONS.

Didn't happen? No shit, sherlock. The governments, controlled by ever-increasing concentration of money and power, allowed a tiny minority to become obscenely wealthy at the expense of everybody else. But the Boomers believed in capitalism and "democracy" because IT SEEMED TO BE WORKING AT THE TIME. And if you had been one of them, you would have believed it too.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

On a more serious note: YOU are stating that "the boomer solutions" are a disaster. I say there are no such thing as "boomer solutions". Each generation is brainwashed differently, and each behaves according to that brainwashing.

This is an oversimplification and you know it. Zoomers have reacted differently to the same cultural stimuli. The same thing happened with boomers. The fact remains that the vast majority of boomers did not rebel against the purest form of liberal materialism to ever exist. The ones who did rebel, rebelled in the name of even more radical forms of materialism - those were the pseudo-socialists of the time.

And if you had been one of them, you would have believed it too.

Perhaps. Perhaps not. Liberalism is hegemonic today, yet I am not a liberal, am I? Not to mention that the argument you make by no means dispenses with personal responsibility. All you are doing is saying that if I was in their place, I too would have been responsible for their errors. You are not wrong, but this argument does not strengthen your case.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Yes, each generation is brainwashed and conditioned differently, and therefore, react according to that (different) conditioning / brainwashing.

Liberal materialism WORKED back in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s. You are attempting to isolate an ideology as being THE crucial particular of a generation. That is flat wrong. Many many things came together to make liberalism the abomination it has become today.

Let me give you an example from Canada where I live. Up until some time in the late '90s or early zeroes, our national Unemployment Insurance program assured us of 75% of our working wages should we be out of work. Pretty liberal, right? Every paycheck, employed people would chip in to the UI program, and if/when they'd be out of work, collect 75% of normal pay until they found a job again. It worked great. People worked and worked hard, because they had been conditioned to want to be as much a productive member of society as possible.

And then sometime in the late-90s / early zeroes, the Federal Government of Canada ups and decides to cash out OUR UI PROGRAM. This was OUR money for OUR possible future unemployment. All 47 billion of it. Bear in mind that the Canadian population is 1/10th of the USA's, so it's equivalent to half a trillion if it had happened in the USA. A hell of a lot of money. Suddenly after that, the Federal Government decides that UI will now only pay out 55% instead of 75%.

Wait, what? Yes. It was working great. Then the politicians decided to screw it up. Sound familiar? I thought so. This is not a problem caused by too much liberalism. IT WAS WORKING FINE. It's a problem caused by the concentration of power by politicians who stop representing the people and instead represent their best buddies' best interests and fuck the people.

It's a problem of not having checks and balances on the REPRESENTATIVE aspect of a "representative democracy". You have the same crap in the USA. You can't blame a generation or an ideology when the scumbags-in-chief are using their positions of power to continuously rape the population up the ass. Power hoards itself, and there are none more powerful than the banksters and their clique. Until THAT problem is well and truly solved, that is, corruption of politicians and cronyism, everything else pales in terms of importance.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Yes, each generation is brainwashed and conditioned differently, and therefore, react according to that (different) conditioning / brainwashing.

Perhaps I was unclear. I meant that, within a generation, different groups will react differently to the exact same cultural stimuli. Conditioning can be accepted or rejected in various ways and to various degrees. It is not a process that is experienced in a purely passive way.

Liberal materialism WORKED back in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s. You are attempting to isolate an ideology as being THE crucial particular of a generation. That is flat wrong. Many many things came together to make liberalism the abomination it has become today.

I am not reducing everything to ideology - the ideology is downstream from the existential condition of the people who maintain it. The boomers were vapid, materialistic and indifferent to an unprecedented degree. Even the "radical" boomers like the beatniks were the same way, only slightly less indifferent.

This is not a problem caused by too much liberalism.

When I say "liberalism", I am referring to the entire system, not to screeching college students with pink hair dye.

It's a problem of not having checks and balances on the REPRESENTATIVE aspect of a "representative democracy".

Ah, I see. You are a liberal yourself. That is probably the main source of our disagreement. Addressing your reply more broadly, a functional welfare state is not "the answer" or "the solution" either. Personally speaking, I think we can hope for more from politics than simply covering the basic material needs of the people. It is certainly a good thing to do so, but it should by no means by the end goal, in my opinion. Liberals will claim otherwise. Many would also claim that is it both impossible and undesirable to even try to achieve more through politics. I disagree.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Once again you fail to pin me down with your preconceived ideas. Checks and balances on the power of politicians make me a liberal? I am not in any way, shape or form a liberal. I'm pointing out a system that "worked" and how it got subverted by the political class and its sponsors.

At any point in time or space, if a national government system happens to exist, hardwired checks and balances have to be implemented on the exercise of power. THE PEOPLE or a Great Leader actually representing his people from soul to toes, have to be the ones with the executive power. Only in such a system can society and joe average not get shafted into oblivion.

Any socio-political/economic argument that doesn't start there is moot because it ignores the most fundamental building block of society: The individual.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You sound like you might have been born between 1946 and 1964, were you?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nope.