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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The stormcloaks is literally a national liberation movement of whites freeing themselves from jewish rule through the empire as a proxy.

It's literally 1:1 to our struggle in real life lol.

[–]Nasser[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not really sure about versed you are on the theory so some of this might not make sense to you.

The Empire had definitely had a negative cultural influence on the province with the nordic faith being replaced by the imperial pantheon aswell as other cultural influence. Not to mention they drive mass immigration of other races into the province. However, it simply isn't the for liberation mainly due to the threat of the Southern Aldmeri Dominion led by the Thalmor High Elves.

These guy's goals range from either simply conquering tamriel and subjugating all races or complete destruction of Nirn in order to become Gods by deactivating the towers. In Skyrim, during a quest where you raid the Thalmor embassy, you discover a document where the Thalmor talk about how Ulfric's rebellion is an asset due to it weakening the Empire though depleting their manpower and resources. You could say they're kinda similar to communist China however there are alot of differences in situation.

On top of that, say Ulfric does win, the empire will more than likely reconquer the province. The stormcloaks are the equivalent of an undisciplined militia army, the legion you would face in game are made up of local nordic recruits and they're on the brink of winning the war at the game's start, the actual armies in Cyrodil will probably curb stomp the rebellion.

https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Stormcloak_Missive

This letter only appears if you win the civil war as the Stormcloaks describing how the Empire is amassing an army to wipe out the Stormcloaks from the south. So due to the stormcloaks most being unable to win, their victory will serve to weaken the empire and give the dominion an easier time in the second great war they are planning.

So in summary, the Stormcloaks are 100% right in wanting to succeed but it is not the right time. Only when the dominion falls, that's when they should go for it.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

1) Yes it is, it's about being free from the (((thalmor))) and the empire that enables them. The empire taxes them then offers no protection, allowing the (((thalmor))) to come in and kill Nords indiscriminately.

The empire breaks the Obedience-Protection paradigm, they demand obedience from the Nords but offer no protection for them against the (((thalmor))).

2) Yes the (((thalmor))) want to destroy the physical world in order to become the gods. It's very similar to the coming of the anti-Christ when jews will become rulers of the whole world. It's a racial-supremacist prophecy, they claim they are descended of gods and will become gods again once the physical world is destroyed. It's a load of kike bullshit.

Yes they want the war to continue, but they don't want either side to win. They just want continued instability similar to how jews benefit today from perpetual civil wars in the middle east, the (((thalmor))) are after all modeled on the real life jews. Glad you didn't pretend asset means Ulfric is a cianigger though because that meme is retarded. For those that don't know: Ulfric refused to cooperate with the (((thalmor))) after they tortured him and he never contact them again, asset=/=agent.

3) Not a chance. Nords when they can worship Talos are a lot stronger. Nords are the greatest warriors in Tamriel. Nords are known for guerilla warfare. Nords have massive mountains surrounding them, particularly their southern border. The Redguards defended their land against the (((thalmor))) previously, united Nords with Talos worship (do we factor in the Dragonborn?) definitely could. Again, similar to in real life with kike wars against Arabs they have no chance. Once the Empire is defeated in Skyrim who knows what the new borders would look like, is it guaranteed they'll allow the (((thalmor))) to just walk through the empire to launch a new attack on Skyrim? What's to say Hammerfell and possibly others wouldn't join an anti-Finance Axis to liberate the whole of Tamriel from the kikes?

4-5) This is nonsense. What's to say the dominion will ever fall? The Empire is allowing them to do whatever they want and never putting up any resistance whatsoever. The only way the Nords can try to guarantee their existence is by fighting for it, they are going to eventually be genocided by the (((thalmor))) if they do not fight, or worse the (((thalmor))) will just destroy the whole world.

The options are die slowly, or fight for the chance to live regardless of the odds. Only a coward would choose the former. Literally everything of the Stormcloak struggle is 1:1 identical with ours in real life, our options are to fight ZOG or let them continue genociding our people in the hopes that 'collapse' happens for us.

Victory or Sovngarde!

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I want to support the Stormcloaks, they're attractive nordics while the empire is a bunch of manlet meds. Plus, they have the right to their own lands. However, there is the threat of an dark elf empire iirc. The elves in fact defeated the united empire just a few years before.

So it would be better for Skyrim to stay in the Empire as together they'd be better able to resist the elves. Divided, they'd be defeated even more easily in detail.

[–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

High elf actually and they didn't really win, it ended by armistice. I agree aswell as its likely even if the Stormcloaks win the Empire will likely reconquer them killing thousands more and giving the dominion an even easier time.

https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Stormcloak_Missive

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From what I recall the reason for choosing the empire is there was a greater threat of another empire that would take over that region. I think it would have been better if the Storm Cloaks did the "render unto Caesar" schtick and when opportunity arises take back their homeland for themselves. I don't remember if the game allowed that choice in game or how such an action would take place in the game.