Congressional investigation finds that the US navy is barely fit for purpose

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[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The Kiev vs Moscow debate has been done to death. Its been a major trope in discussions of the Eastern front. The general consensus is that it would not have been possible for the Wehrmacht to attack Moscow in August/September 1941, because they had not built up a supply stockpile that could sustain that kindof operation.

[–]douglas_waltersWhite Supremacist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Mosley claimed that the primary reason for their defeat wasn’t the decision to invade the Soviet Union in 1941, but the failing to finish off a weakened Britain in 1940 before American intervention in the war.

That Hitler let sentimentality affect his strategic thinking.

What say you?

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Mosley claimed that the primary reason for their defeat wasn’t the decision to invade the Soviet Union in 1941, but the failing to finish off a weakened Britain in 1940 before American intervention in the war.

It is of course true that if Germany had knocked Britain out of the war in 1940, that they would have had an easier time against the Soviet Union in 1941. Without Britain (or America) in the picture, Germany could have been victorious in a war of attrition against Russia.

That Hitler let sentimentality affect his strategic thinking.

To a point, this is true. Hitler never wanted to destroy Britain, he just wanted them out of the war. His reasoning for attacking the Soviet Union was that 1) They were the only existential threat facing Germany. 2) They were ideological enemys for the Nazis. 3) Conquering Russia would intimidate Britain into making peace.

[–]douglas_waltersWhite Supremacist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hitler never wanted to destroy Britain

Couldn't Germany have subdued Britain while setting up a puppet government with Mosley in charge?

Or, in Hitler's mind, would that be a waste of resources better utilised elsewhere (in this case, related to your third point)? So with the benefit of hindsight, we can say that was a complete miscalculation.

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Couldn't Germany have subdued Britain while setting up a puppet government with Mosley in charge?

In order to do that, they would have needed to gain a major victory over them. The only way Germany could actually conquer Britain was for the Luftwaffe to defeat the RAF, preparing the way for an amphibious invasion. Hitler gave it a good college try, but things didn't pan out the way he planned. Thats why he was forced to invade the Soviet Union.