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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So are you proposing paganism or atheism for a white belief system? Simply being 'anti christian' is not a position. White people are not Jews. We are not an endless debate society that simply gives power to the person with the best sophistry. Successful ethno nations have religious systems for their people. It's literally a death sentence for a race to not have a religious belief system. Or do you oppose whites having a successful ethnostate and good racial hygiene? Successful racial hygiene is an extension of a strong religious sytem. Or are you proposing some type of nietchian atheist fashy techno state? Please couple your criticisms with viable alternatives.

Do you travel a lot? If you're white and you travel around the world people are going to call you one of two things. White or Christian. Why? Because Christianity is the religion of white people. If a new religion comes along and white people embrace it and practice it for 2000 years that will be the new religion of white people. That hasn't happened yet though. Christianity is implicitly white. And the history of Christianity is attached to the history of Europe. We should not try to erase our pagan roots and we should not try to erase our christian roots. Overtly bashing either is cringe and anti white.

I'm all for respectful criticism of Christianity but when shit hits the fan in north america or Europe the people leading the 3rd position political parties are going to be Christians or Christian apologists. You won't be welcome in white encampments or white enclaves if you don't fit into either of those camps. There will be no white atheist political party that takes over north america. Atheism is a Jewish operation.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You're misunderstanding me. I'm in no way saying we shouldn't have a religious belief system, we should. I don't wish my tragic atheism on anyone, but I'm just aware of Christianity's flaws. It's inherently problematic. And no, we should absolutely not have "an endless debate society that simply gives power to the person with the best sophistry". I'm thinking more along the lines of what existed in the ancient world. I think we should try to synthesize ancient European religious belief systems with the modern world. Fascism was an attempt to achieve just that.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm thinking more along the lines of what existed in the ancient world.

We have very little reliable record of what happen in the ancient world and we especially don't have reliable record on white religious systems in the ancient world.

Even if you found some super authentic ancient document from the past that laid out the 'real' white religion it probably wouldn't work very well in the techno dystopia we are living in. People would just take that freshly discovered ancient text and discard it for the next new Jew created myth.

I think we should try to synthesize ancient European religious belief systems with the modern world. Fascism was an attempt to achieve just that.

I'm not totally against this. Asha Logos has done some good work on this. Especially some of what he's unearthed about the Scythians. However, we are under serious threat NOW. Our lands are being invaded NOW. Putting aside whether it's possible or not I don't see a way we revive ancient customs in time to save whites.

The reason I get so heated on these conversations is that there's a LOT of evidence that Christianity rolled in ancient white belief systems. There's doctrines in Christianity to deal with thots, to deal with Jews and to deal with invaders. There's even nature worship, strength worship and ancestor worship. Not to mention a good 200 years or so of 'pioneer' Christianity and stoicism that built the american west. I see no reason to tap ancient white religious strength when semi modern examples sit right in front us us. People hate Christianity because it's subverted and it no longer fights the good fight. That's fair but it's not the whole story.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

First of all, when I mention the ancient world I'm primarily thinking of what Nietzsche called master morality. That should be our main source for inspiration. I think Nietzsche was spot-on when he identified early Judaism and Christianity as the progenitors of our current slave morality.

Secondly, I'm aware that this post-Christian approach is unsuited for the US. Here in Europe however, Christianity is pretty much dead, and I think that's a good thing. That doesn't mean that the nihilism we have now is a great alternative, it's definitely not.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That doesn't mean that the nihilism we have now is a great alternative, it's definitely not.

You might be right about the death of Christianity in Europe. It's sad to me but if that's the reality on the ground then I'm not going to fight that. In the states though Christianity is still a viable mobilizing and organizing system for white Americans.

I don't think the secular 'identitarianism' movements in Europe are going to be enough to get europeans fighting for their survival. I support those movements but they seem to be missing something.