Americans Hate Each Other

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Yes indeed: these campaigns of hatred &c developed especially in the past 10 years, as a way of distracting people from the rise in income inequality that started with the Reagan Admin. The article partially addresses this, but not appropriately:

Spoiled elites—highly unappreciative of the New Deal’s populist approach and the decades of labor battles that created the pressure for change—turned a blind eye while corporate America worked diligently to return the American economy to Gilded Age levels of inequality and worker disdain.

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[Michael Lind] “We become Peron’s Argentina,” he answered, without missing a beat. “It’s where I think we’re going to end up anyway. We’re showing signs of it ... your capitalists are mostly a rentier class, living off unearned income from banking, agriculture, finance, or stock sales … elites tied to the military and a nationalist coalition of interests. The working class is immobile. It cannot move at all.”

It's well-known that the "happiest" countries are known for a greater percentage of wealth parity, the middle class, social programs, healthcare &c, such as: Finland, Denmark, Switzerland, Iceland, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Luxembourg &c.

I don't think most Americans hate one another, and the statistics do not show this. I do appreciate the approaches in the article, which cover interesting points. The news media and social media post many times on a daily basis videos of the craziest Americans, which makes these media complicit in reinforcing the idea that Americans hate one another. The vast majority of Americans are still known worldwide for being among the nicest, warmest, most generous people in the world. They're also known for their gullibility, relatively high poverty statistics for a "first world" country, and racists. What the article could address more specifically is that political corruption is eating away at the American Dream, which will be unattainable for most young people. The solution - in my view - is to vote out of office all of the old politicians, and replace them with people who have a record of supporting the 99%, at the expense of the 1%.

[–]AidsVictim69 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Yes indeed: these campaigns of hatred &c developed especially in the past 10 years, as a way of distracting people from the rise in income inequality that started with the Reagan Admin. The article partially addresses this, but not appropriately:

This is just naive leftist nonsense that tries to transmute all racial/ethnic/cultural issues into purely economic ones. The rightwing fetishization of Jews as the man behind the curtain simply morphs into capitalists. Wealth is used by the (almost universally liberal in character) rich to suppress racial forces, not encourage them. Racial conflict is not a distraction from rising wealth inequality, it's challenge to their ability to control it. To the extent they direct it now, it's to attack conservative whites and remove them as a potential nationalistic element that might impede their control. The best case scenario for the capitalists is to keep the Western workers as pacified as possible while creating a diverse a workforce as possible so that their ability to form cohesive opposition forces are neutered.

It's well-known that the "happiest" countries are known for a greater percentage of wealth parity, the middle class, social programs, healthcare &c, such as: Finland, Denmark, Switzerland, Iceland, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Luxembourg &c.

Most of these countries are undergoing the same process of division and radicalization as migration and ethno-cultural stress increases despite more robust welfare states and lower income equality, they are just further behind the US in this process for demographic reasons primarily.

The vast majority of Americans are still known worldwide for being among the nicest, warmest, most generous people in the world.

No one thinks this.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

So you disagree with most of what I wrote? Do the points in the article reflect your hatred of others? You've thus been manipulated by the 1% to hate other Americans?

transmute all racial/ethnic/cultural issues into purely economic ones.

That's not what I wrote. Read it again. (Economic inequality is fundamental to developments of other problems, even if the other problems already existed.)

The rightwing fetishization of Jews

Definitely not happening. Many of those right-wing assholes are Jews. Also the usage of 'fetish' does not work here, FFS.

as the man behind the curtain simply morphs into capitalists.

Poetry? Makes no sense to me.

Wealth is used by the (almost universally liberal in character) rich to suppress racial forces, not encourage them.

The opposite is true. I wonder why you or anyone else would think this.

Racial conflict is not a distraction from rising wealth inequality, it's challenge to their ability to control it.

Not true. Just look at how the 1% promotes racisim on websites and in right-wing organizations. Consider the dumbass parents protesting against the manufactured 'critical race theory'. It's a non issue meant to piss off dumbasses who enjoy racism. Students should learn about history. That's it. End of story. Deleting portions of history you don't like is fascism, to control the masses.

it's to attack conservative whites and remove them as a potential nationalistic element that might impede their control.

These fuckers (and Jews and the other 1%) are the one's promoting racism. They're not trying to remove themselves. They're in control.

The best case scenario for the capitalists is to keep the Western workers as pacified as possible while creating a diverse a workforce as possible so that their ability to form cohesive opposition forces are neutered.

Yes - we agree on this - but should also follow the money, to see how the 1% are gleaning everything from the 99% in the US. This will not work in the long term, but they're not concerned with the fate of young people.

Most of these countries are undergoing the same process of division and radicalization as migration and ethno-cultural stress increases despite

Yes - they're discussing immigration reform, and legislation was recently passed for the EU and the UK to come to terms with it. But this does not change the fact that those are the happiest countries, especially because of income parity &c.

The vast majority of Americans are still known worldwide for being among the nicest, warmest, most generous people in the world.

No one thinks this.

For you to say this is an indication that you've not been out of the country long enough to see it. The Bush Jr and Trump Administrations we periods when people in the US were seen as really stupid and foolish. Thus non-US opinions of Americans are gradually changing.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Just look at how the 1% promotes racisim on websites and in right-wing organizations.

What are you smoking? The 1% is literally funding BLM and other woke projects. The 1% is replacing whites.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Borzoi said this the other day on telegram:

I'll talk to anyone who doesn't watch television about what I know.

But you can't talk to television watchers.

You're just arguing with the television and the television can't hear you.

I know socks is just a troll account pretending to be a gigaNPC libtard, but this applies.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I heard this argument word for word on reddit the other day when I was talking to a leftist about how all their social views were exactly the same as every CEO and attendee at davos. They counter with this idea that actually corporations are funding white nationalism too. Of course they can't point to any actual examples and usually just lump everyone from the federalist to breitbart to the daily stormer as all exactly the same and all promoting hate. It's so stupid.

Funnily enough the only other people I hear make the argument that it's actually part of some plan for the system to promote racial division are really low-tier older conservatives and conspiracy types. Turns out horse-shoe theory is real it just doesn't work how a guy like saegon thinks it does.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

corporations are funding white nationalism too.

No, this is how it works. FED-ops promote honeypot 'white supremacist' movements led by Zionist Jews to scapegoat white nationalism in order to discredit any caucasian, that might not even identify as a white nationalist, who questions the overt plutocratic agenda of making caucasians a minority or to scapegoat Esau and destroy Edom.

Now if corporations are funding 'white nationalism' it's Cointelpro groups such as the Proud Boys and various other kosher friendly movements used to tribalize Caucasians under the umbrella of Zionism in order to promote their form of ethnationalism.

Simply, watching the Mormon Jew Jan Irvin call the FBI on people who post Talmud quotes and they get subsequently raided is an obvious example of Jewish subversion. Jan is a lunatic but he also whines about crypto-Islamism and tries to scapegoat Islam to whitewash our Zioninst occupied government.

The more you watch these grifters the more you realize hoe much power Zio Jews have in the US. If they are not trying to demographically replace caucasians they are trying to gatekeep the narrative of white nationalism by racialzing caucasians under the tribalism of Zionism or at the very least utilising perception management to make people as soft and distracted as possible.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True, BLM is Marxist, though the assassinated BLM founder was against Zionism and the training of US police by a foreign military (IDF). So, he was on to something. Unfortunately, BLM is full of Jewish terrorists, Marxist-leninists and funded by corporations for inclusion and public relation purposes.

Yes, there is a conspiracy to end the Caucasian race through various forms of propaganda, economic watfare and enforced emigration by Rothschild and Co. We've heard many times plutocratic Jews embrace the destruction of Caucasians and exclaim their happiness for increased white male suicide. That being said, there's also the other side of the spectrum which pretends to befriend those against such propaganda hoping to tribalize caucasians under the radicalism of Zionism.

Watch out for both.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We 100% disagree on this. There is no evidence for what you note, whereas you can see what the right-wing 1% want among those who support Citizens United, right-wing political hacks on the Supreme Court, have paid millions to right-wing politicians, who control the news and social media, and who fund the racist disinformation websites at /u/ShitpostNews. There is by contrast no evidence that any of these people are liberal or anti-white (whatever that is supposed to mean, though we see it a lot on Saidit).

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is no evidence for what you note

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/companies-donating-black-lives-matter/

who fund the racist disinformation websites

Then why has the Alt-Right been deplatformed almost everywhere you look? Why has Amazon banned several Dissident Right books from their website? What you're saying doesn't make any sense.

There is by contrast no evidence that any of these people are liberal or anti-white

Just read the above.