The decline and ruin of the Catholic church

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[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Due to its vows of celibacy, the church was naturally bound to attract sexual deviants and undesriables

Stupid take. Celibacy is a way to ensure that those that hold power don't abuse that power to enrich their own children but use the power to enrich their culture, their tribe and their country, because the way for them to propagate their genes is through the success of their surrounding community. Jesus is King.

In the end, they all end up as powerless pawns of Judah.

Judahs claim to fame is taking the silver coins, only for Jesus to rise again and claim His throne.
Jesus will rise again

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nope. Celibacy drives away normal men. Men want sex, children and legacy. Celibacy draws in homosexuals. The orthodox church didn't have celibacy and their priests worked just fine. They had and have far fewer sex scandals than the caths.

[–]mahavishnunj 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They had and have far fewer sex scandals than the caths.

if you actually believe this, wow, lol.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

What kind of normal person doesn't want to fuck though?

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Some men and women are born with lower sex drives, i.e. more 'ideologically' driven than sexually driven. Due to the nature of male and female sexuality there will be a LOT of men that just don't get to breed for various reasons. The church or Abbey is a safe space for these men. It's not just a safe space but a space that makes non sexually reproducing men useful for the community. When religion isn't subverted men of the cloth essentially become fathers for the entire community using their sexual energies towards studies in morality, spirituality, history, agricultural studies, beer making, intellectualism, letters, academics, etc. Women that don't breed can also access the church through the convent. It gives people that are left out of the breeding game an option to still have a meaningful and fulfilling life. And more importantly it keeps these non breeders away from degeneracy or other acts that hurt the community. If you don't have something productive for non breeding men to do they may use that energy and time to overthrow the community.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I get there's a huge difference with sex drives, it causes serious problems in relationships. But even a low sex drive does not mean a non existent one. Even asexual people are not always celibate.

My grandfather was in seminary, they're definitely not all asexual people at that. Maybe some are and it would make more sense for them, but plenty of priests I assume have normal sex drives.

Due to the nature of male and female sexuality there will be a LOT of men that just don't get to breed for various reasons

Incels? That's a problem with the incel, any guy that wants to get laid can.

non sexually reproducing men useful for the community

There's a lot of contributions people can make besides having offspring. I'm specifically talking about fucking though, even if it's just fucking for fun. That's a normal drive for most people, although it isn't universal.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Following this line of thinking, how could we incoorporate jews successfully into the western civilisation?

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You comment is really interesting because catholic leaders had this same quandry to deal with after the pope was shown that the Talmud existed. They tried two different strategies. One was Sicut Judais non. This was a papal policy that the Jews could live in christian lands and they were to be protected on the condition Jews refrain from undermining christian culture. This approach failed so the church then moved to the 'convert or get out' strategy which also failed. This started the whole crypto Jew thing with the Spanish converso crisis.

The problem with Jews is they think they are entitled to your shit so there's no negotiating with them. The catholic church learned this the hard way twice and they've since been totally subverted and sidelined by modern Jewry.

How do we incorporate Jews into western civilization?

In order to survive Jews turned themselves into a poison pill that kills any host that swallows. How do you incorporate a people that don't want to be incorporated?

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There has always existed an institution that puts non reproductive men to good use- The Army

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It can be both. It can serve as a way to ensure there is no enrichment of the priests family but it can also attract deviants. In fact even if priests were allowed to marry there would be just as many predators in the church because it's high trust career that let's you get close to children. There are actually more pedos in childcare and teaching then there are in the church so the whole 'evil pedo priest' thing gets a bit old. The pedo priest thing was kept in the headlines of the jew controlled news a LOT longer then other types of child abuses cases that's for sure.

In fact the reason we have pedo catholics is because it was an attack on the church. These people were specifically placed in the church by communists as an attack on western institutions. This is well documented.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

And how many of the pedo priests were crypto jews?

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know for sure but since Jews are dominate in communism and hate the catholic church so they were most likely involved.