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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good for him. Give him another few years and he'll be writing articles for counter-currents about how he left philo-semitic, HBD obsessed white racialism behind and embraced the third position.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Good for you. I feel sorry for Gen Z kids. They are most heavily propagandized and brainwashed people in history. Stalin could only dream of a population this brainwashed and controlled. Schools, music, tv, colleges, movies and even video games promote the most vile degeneracy imaginable.

A lot of Gen Z kids will be lost. They'll become trannies, coalburners, sterilize themselves to save the environment, become drug addicts or worse. But I think that there will be a large minority of Gen Z kids who will end up being based and very right wing.

Its polarization. They won't be milktoast or unserious like Gen X or Boomers but they'll be hardcore right wingers. The rest will either be leftist freaks or depressed neets.

The girls are the most affected. They are suggestible to propaganda and social pressure and many will burn coal or tie their tubes for mother gaia. Many will become trannies or self mutilate themselves with tattoos and obesity. These things are heavily promoted to them.

I just hope the based fraction of Gen Z men don't run into a scenario where they lack enough brides. In that case a trip to Russia or Poland is the best solution.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are claims that many more have been turning left than previously thought. Could it be feasible, however, that more are turning based than previous generations?

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This is great write up.

it’s quite simple to refer them to AmRen, Vox Day, or any number of pro-white activists

I would add Vince from Red Elephants, Zman, and Youtuber Intellectual Embargo as nice soft entry points into pro-white politics (blonde in the belly of the beast, Laura Towler, Brittney Sellner and Lana Lokteff for the ladies). Old Alt Hype and Old Frames Games radio are also good for transitioning.

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Absolutely love Vincent. There is something about him that makes him unique. Perhaps, it's the way he raises important questions and awareness. Laura, Collett, Dutton and Red Ice TV are equally good. No White Guilt can be annoying but he has good intentions for our people so I'll add him to the list.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Dutton

Yes I forgot about him. I agree he is a good bridge figure as well, especially for those with a strong science oriented mind and lexicon.

No White Guilt

Yeah his presentation style annoys me a bit but he's a good person and his dogged approach to inserting the phrase 'anti white' into the public conversation has paid off big time for our people. I specifically accredit him with that monumental accomplishment.

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Completely forgot Tim Murdock, also known as Horus the Avenger. Here's a link of his stream with Fash Gordon

https://dlive.tv/p/dlive-79216902+3Hpyrwkng

Well spoken, well educated and good presentation style. He understands the world and the ways government works.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All this censorship really does work because I haven't caught his show much since he went off youtube. Now that you reminded me I'm going to put him back into my rotation. He's solid and his old cartoons are the best. He has stayed very consistent with his Saturday night show.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Now he has evolve from being a groyper loser.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

groyper loser

Don't discourage him. Groypers are generally good. They're anti-semitic, pro white and anti-degeneracy. Sure Nick is a manlet fag and a Trump shill but that shouldn't indict the rest of them.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Jones and Nick are finally both turning on Trump though so that's a good development.

https://ruqqus.com/+altrightwebm/post/cu57/alex-joness-new-position-on-trump

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Good to hear. I always felt that Jones was a fed because of how he sprinkled nonsense like interdimensional goblins into globalist theories in order to discredit the right. Plus he never called out the Jews. Every nonsense like Freemasons, reptilians and satanists are real but not zionists.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think Jones made a deal with someone in power that he would essentially become a clown to help discredit legit dissidents. However, he has been right about a LOT and he started out a very legit dissident. Watch the documentary he did with Aaron Russo. Also listen to Jones in 2004.

https://files.catbox.moe/x7tmjm.webm

That being said again I totally agree that he's compromised in some way. Both him and Rogan are definitely in some type of mockingbird media psyop.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Rogan

Rogan isn't even a psyop. He's just a normie liberal. He's the ultimate grug and represents the archetypal American political views. Live and let live but not cool with the weirdest things from the left like trannies and defunding the police.

[–]sylla94 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

unnecessary dig, mate. guy's shown a lot of growth

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Should add at top as original article:

From Neoconservative to Groyper

Jason Knight, American Renaissance, July 17, 2021

This is part of our continuing series of accounts by readers of how they shed the illusions of liberalism and became race realists.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

To be honest I've muted lately on my beliefs, given how I've explored a variety of other stances and found some talking points that have generally not been covered here in the alt-right space alongsingde the large amount of research I have to do. Nevertheless I appreciate how you were able to learn successfully and find great environments, and I hope you can cover and successfully continue being an opportunist.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Like what?

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There may be some unanswered questions of mine, but I am willing to solve and discuss these more amongst others in the community.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Even then, if anyone can converse with me about these loose ends that would be a benefit. My beliefs have eroded on some aspects such as the JQ and statistics related to our mission, while throughout the community coverage of other issues such as LGBT has been quite weak (hence why I made that thread).

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Specifically like what? You don't believe in the JQ? Literally more jews in bidens administration than whites...

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That is true, but most of the time they believe these claims are confirmation bias in other fields and more gentiles are heads of media, banking, and other corps. And another example in the media, they say that they cannot plot through the media because the media had historically gone against interests of Jews themselves (during WWII) or they compete against one another (in a capitalistic sense).

Another big thing they dispute is the "109 times" claim, stating these expulsions were either bogus, insignificant due to state/target size, or simply (religiously) motivated due to them being a wandering minority. There's also a meme going around that Whites had been "expelled" from far more countries due to decolonization, but I digress as this is more of a meme... https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/70st6m/antisemitism_is_historically_a_result_of_jewish/

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Could you expand? I don't understand the arguments

[–]Fonched 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

On the media and other industries they are said to control:

-"J. J. Goldberg, editorial director of the newspaper The Forward, in 1997 published a study of this myth regarding the United States, concluding that, although Jews do hold many prominent positions in the U.S. media industry, they "do not make a high priority of Jewish concerns" and that Jewish Americans generally perceive the media as anti-Israel. Variants on this theme have focused on Hollywood, the press, and the music industry."

-Alan Dershowitz: "Many of these individuals are Jewish only in the sense that their parents or grandparents happen to be Jews. They do not live Jewish lives or support Jewish causes. They certainly do not conspire to exercise any sort of “Jewish control” over the areas in which they work. Indeed, many individual Jews who are in positions of authority are anti-Israel and critical of Jewish values. Others simply don’t care about these issues ... So let’s stop all this nonsense about Jewish control over the media and praise those individual Jews who, by dint of hard work and talent, have earned their place, as individuals, in so many areas of American life.", "Whenever there are allegations of Jewish “control” over the “media,” the primary examples cited are The New York Times and the Washington Post. Both were founded by families of Jewish origin. But neither has ever gone out of its way to promote Jewish causes or values. The New York Times was derelict in reporting on the Holocaust and generally opposed the establishment of Israel. It remains critical of many current Israeli policies (as does the Washington Post)."

-https://gab.com/Fonched/posts/106292117954739911m A collection of infographics (one denies Jews having a majority of executive positions at media companies, another breaks down the famed CNN meme and claims these graphs baselessly place Stars of David to inflate the totals). The "confirmation bias" portion refers to how an equal amount or more Whites may control institutions, seeing as how there may be significant numbers of Jewish coalitions supporting refugees, feminism but no count for multiple Christian groups doing the same.

On expulsions, the thread and its comments I have linked on the essentially sums up what the left has to say about these expulsions and why they happened, if they were impactful enough. They mostly boil these occurences down to them having been one of the only minorities around and therefore a scapegoat, religious persecution and not actual distaste over actions, allege that this pattern is untrue given countries existed that have been friendly to Jews for many years, or that other groups have been expelled to more deserving angles. Keep me informed if there's any part you are not sure about still.

Duplicate threads with more insight in the comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/7295lg/antisemitism_is_historically_a_result_of_jewish/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Judaism/comments/7299s7/antisemitism_is_historically_a_result_of_jewish/

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you should post this as a seperate thread. It would be valuable to have input from all members of the forum.

I personally agree with many of your points. Its always important to put things into perspective and to me the fact that jews are 33% of the Biden administration is enough proof of the JQ to me.
They don't control everything but their power is immense, they can hide well, they work together against other ethnic groups, while othe ethnic groups don't work against them. This creates a power imbalance.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

found some talking points that have generally not been covered here in the alt-right space

Examples?

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

One I have right now is: "There is no gay agenda and people cannot be influenced to change their gender/sexuality because the LGBT people of today grew up largely seeing representations of straight relationships/cis people."

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is convincing to you? Ever heard of the still ongoing sexual revolution? Check out the Transgender Industrial Complex and Libido Dominandi if you like to read. If not just find some podcasts discussing them.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Great suggestions, I'll have to delve in to what they say. Back to my claim, a point that is obvious to both sides is that these pieces of media encourage viewers to be acceptive of gays and transgenders. The origin of these identities is something that definitely needs to be looked into more. I have heard of the former title, but not the latter at this time. A meme point about the Transgender-Industrial Complex book, the LGBT community has completely strawmanned that book to believe it is saying "transgenders are wealthy and attend boardroom meetings".

If you have heard the news, a big discussion at this very moment is being centered on gays and HIV. Those defending gays claim HIV patients can live long, healthy lifestyles with modern medical treatment and all the pushback is part of a "stigma" against homosexuality.