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[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

Your ancestors were too magnanimous to completely destroy a hostile non white group, therefore you now have to give up your countries and pay tribute to these groups forever."

Exactly. Your racist colonizer ancestors couldn't survive without enslavement and exploitation, and now modern whites have inherited the debts of their ancestors. And because people of color do all of the real work in the country, we hold all the real power.

White supremacists narratives are exactly that: narratives. It's storytelling from parasitic raiders who can't survive without exploitation.

BIPOC said "no more", and y'all reacted with rage, because your success is built on our exploitation. And without that, you lose your privilege.

America belongs to the Black and Indigenous. We're just taking back what's rightly ours.

[–]AidsVictim69 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (27 children)

Exactly. Your racist colonizer ancestors couldn't survive without enslavement and exploitation

Sure they could. Millions of Europeans who came to the US with nothing besides their family and culture created the wealthiest nation in the world almost entirely through their own labour in a wilderness with no infrastructure, development, and often surrounded by mostly hostile natives. The majority never needed or benefited from POC labour. The Southern slave system primarily benefited only the elite (plantation owners and to a lesser extent the coastal merchant class) and the capital derived thereof was mostly reinvested into the plantation system until it was destroyed in the civil war. The rest of black history is sharecropping and scab labour (along with Asian and later Latino immigrants) during the "Great" migration.

and now modern whites have inherited the debts of their ancestors.

I don't owe POC anything because I have the same skin color as a plantation owner from 170 years ago.

White supremacists narratives are exactly that: narratives. It's storytelling from parasitic raiders who can't survive without exploitation

Understanding the reality of historical labour isn't a narrative. The idea that a bunch of slaves concentrated on Southern plantations was necessary, needed, or improved in any significant the majority populations material situation is fantasy. At best a small trickle down profit benefitted a few urban centers via the mercantile class and the Southern families that owned one or two slaves directly benefitted from that labour. And after the accumulation of capital concentrated into that system was destroyed those labourers were nothing but scabs that suppressed Northern whites already developed industrial labour markets.

Any realistic look at the North American labour market is quite depressing for POC. In exchange for enriching a few elite whites, the rest of white society endured a racial plague.

BIPOC said "no more", and y'all reacted with rage, because your success is built on our exploitation. And without that, you lose your privilege. America belongs to the Black and Indigenous. We're just taking back what's rightly ours.

Even if you could, you will only create an uglier, stupider, and more violent society to live in and North America will tumble into the dustbin of history as so much racial garbage.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

Sure they could. Millions of Europeans who came to the US with nothing besides their family and culture created the wealthiest nation in the world

By exploiting Indigenous people and Black people.

The rest of black history is sharecropping

Which is just a modification of the plantation system that enriched white people at Black and Indigenous people's expenses. Also, that's not the "rest" of Black history. And capitalize Black, we're talking about a culture, not a color.

The idea that a bunch of slaves concentrated on Southern plantations was necessary, needed, or improved in any significant the majority populations material situation is fantasy.

You're right, the South literally fought a war to preserve their right to keep slaves, which means slave labor was TOTALLY unnecessary. It was just so important they were willing to literally murder for it.

Any realistic look at the North American labour market is quite depressing for POC. In exchange for enriching a few elite whites, the rest of white society endured a racial plague

At yet white people saw this as better than the alternative, liberation for Black people.

Even if you could, you will only create an uglier, stupider, and more violent society to live in and North America will tumble into the dustbin of history as so much racial garbage.

As long as we don't literally commit genocide against indigenous people and enslave Black people, it would be impossible to create a WORSE America.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

Sure they could. Millions of Europeans who came to the US with nothing besides their family and culture created the wealthiest nation in the world

By exploiting Indigenous people and Black people.

You can call it exploitation, but the grand majority of immigrants that came over here, no matter their origin, came to look for a better life. Other than those with wealth and power, it's reasonable to assume that those immigrants weren't exactly told that they were going to be fucking over other people. They saw it as a way out of their former lives and did as people trying to survive do, and likely without rationalization. Most of those people were uneducated as fuck, and you're trying to apply a system of reasoning towards a state of mind that dismisses it.

You're right, the South literally fought a war to preserve their right to keep slaves, which means slave labor was TOTALLY unnecessary. It was just so important they were willing to literally murder for it.

What do the people do when they're convinced by their leaders that something is worth fighting for, despite the masses likely not seeing a single benefit? They fight. They fight out of perceived duty to the land or they're conscripted because that's where they live, and that's who they're led by, and they're dragged into the petty power play of rich assholes that don't want to pay for a damn thing. They were the disgustingly rich CEOs of massive companies of their time and did everything to convince the regular wagecucks that free labor and treating people like workhorses was an amazing idea that was great for the whole land, that's the best way that I can think of a linear example.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

What do the people do when they're convinced by their leaders that something is worth fighting for

They get replaced by people capable of independent thought. If your inferior white ancestors were too stupid to see how bad and illogical racism was, they and their children need to be replaced.

Unlike you, I'm not a stupid sheeple.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

They were replaced. By nature of death and birth, everyone was. Then slowly it became the status quo to educate everyone and provide the tools that go hand in hand with information that allows for independent thought in more applicable ways.

If you're not sheeple, you would understand that men, in whatever civilization or whatever culture aside from pacifistic ones, usually seek out more space and places to expand their civilizations towards. It's conquest, and can even happen from group to group within areas with zero white people. Is it right? I mean, it's pretty shitty for those being exploited, killed or having their lives/culture destroyed in the process. Ask your fellow menfolk that have a say-so to stop being hellbent on power, land and wealth. I'm sure they'll totally listen.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Then slowly it became the status quo

This is the problem I have. I'm done waiting for white people to decide when progress happens. We're driving the car now.

You had your chance, and you squandered it. Now it's our America.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

We're driving the car now.

Who's 'we'?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Not him. That's probably just some self deprecating reddit honky that masturbates to cuck porn.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Los Angeles trans protests looked so weird

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

So, conquest then?

Thanks for proving my point.

[–]Daddiescummies 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Did I imply otherwise? Black people are better than you, and we're taking over the country. Your compliance, while appreciated, is not required. We will be deconstructing the systems you would use for retaliation, then focus on redistributing wealth and power through reparations.

Say bye to white privilege.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Ah. The laws of conquest dictate that no matter who gets into power will eventually have it seized from them by a more powerful source. You can carry on with the supremecist attitude, everyone can pretend to be more awesome than everyone else. You can have your golden banana sticker for being a dickhead to someone you don't know on the internet. High five. I'm comforted by the fact that humans are bound to extinguish their existence one way or another.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Now it's our America.

Nah

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You threatened white boy?

You scared?

Good.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yh oh

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

"Inferior" who enslaved your people, according to your logic. So what does that make your people? Inferior of the inferior? There is literally nothing your race has contributed to mankind and you speak of our contribution?

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

"Inferior" who enslaved your people, according to your logic.

Yes, because your people couldn't survive without slaves, and we still freed ourselves from slavery.

So what does that make your people? Inferior of the inferior?

Well, we went from enslavement to freedom, so objectively superior to you.

There is literally nothing your race has contributed

Seasoning.

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Freedom provided by our people. Without the white northerners who fought for your ugly ass, you'd still be a slave to this day. You are so superior that even to this day, your people are starving in Africa and to this day you're below us in every field.

Seasoning? Wow what would we do without that? 90% of every modern invention you see and use came from us. Hell, without our help, Africa would be filled with diseases and you'd die without medicines we created. Your phone and the internet through which you're writing these posts wouldn't exist without us. Nevermind the English language you're using right now.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Freedom provided by our people

We wouldn't need freedom IF YOU DIDN'T ENSLAVE US IN THE FIRST PLACE.

[–]LetssavethefirsworldReturn to Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Whites didn't enslave. Your own people enslaved each other