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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_South_Africa

Its the world champion in rape. That's gotta count for something

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We were told by Liberals and Conservatives alike that diversity is the path forward for wealth and success

You mean liberals?

[–]ShalomEveryone✡️ 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (13 children)

what has the nation even achieved on any social or political level?

South Africa is a lot like Germany before Hitler went mad. Jews built Germany and a white led South Africa was also built by Jews and Israel being that the relation between Israel and a white led South Africa was very important to South Africa. Israel's government gave South Africa money, technology and weapons of war so that South Africa can fight back against rebels, terrorists and neighboring nations.

Israeli engineers and scientists helped South Africa develop nuclear weapons being the only African nation at the time and still up to today who has built nuclear weapons which would have never been possible without Israel's help.

Israel made South Africa a world power, it's no surprise once Israel decided to stop propping up the white South African government their apartheid government was quick to collapse.

Ok, what about technology?

Israel stopped collaborating and sharing technology with South Africa so naturally there was no more technological advancement in South Africa.

Apartheid South Africa was home to some innovative products, including building their own nuclear weapons.

Thanks to Israel.

South Africa built its own nuclear bombs, possibly with Israeli assistance. Some Resolutions of the UN General Assembly in the early 1980s which condemned the cooperation between Israel and Apartheid South Africa, also mentioned nuclear collaboration. U.S. Intelligence believed that Israel participated in South African nuclear research projects and supplied advanced non-nuclear weapons technology to South Africa during the 1970s, while South Africa was developing its own atomic bombs.

Chris McGreal has written that "Israel provided expertise and technology that was central to South Africa's development of its nuclear bombs". In 2000, Dieter Gerhardt, Soviet spy and former commander in the South African Navy, stated that Israel agreed in 1974 to arm eight Jericho II missiles with "special warheads" for South Africa.

According to journalist Seymour Hersh, the 1979 Vela incident, was the third joint Israeli-South African nuclear weapons test in the Indian Ocean, and the Israelis had sent two IDF ships and "a contingent of Israeli military men and nuclear experts" for the test. Author Richard Rhodes also concludes the incident was an Israeli nuclear test, conducted in cooperation with South Africa, and that the United States administration deliberately obscured this fact in order to avoid complicating relations.

What about great minds and thinkers?

Israeli engineers, scientists and academics started to leave as sanctions were starting to pour down on the South African government. They saw the writing was on the wall and knew it was time to leave.

Elon Musk was born in South Africa, but he has never once came back to it.

What's there to do in South Africa? He made his fortune in America, his companies were built and headquartered in America. The guy is a workaholic.

So that's 27 years of forced diversity, but there's absolutely NOTHING to show for it.

There's nothing to show for it because the country is no longer being propped up by Israel and international Jewish bankers. You think it's a coincidence as Israel started distancing itself from South Africa politically, economically, scientifically the country started to go to shit? White South Africans knew they couldn't do it on their own which is why they were so dependent on Israel all those years.

We were told by Liberals and Conservatives alike that diversity is the path forward for wealth and success

That's a lie, who are the liberals and conservatives that specifically said diversity is the path towards wealth and success?

Everybody else either lives in complete squalor, or are too scared to leave their gated houses.

That's what happens when the white government of South Africa is no longer propped up by Israel.

Shalom

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[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Jews built Germany

And after they gassed them all expelled them it went to shit, right?

Let's do an experiment, Jews get the fuck out of America and see how it goes for us. I think we'll probably be OK.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Let's do an experiment, Jews get the fuck out of America and see how it goes for us. I think we'll probably be OK.

They will try to subvert all other major superpowers and get them to invade and destroy America, and then blame white Americans for the destruction. This is a common pattern of Jews throughout history. If Jews get kicked out of some non-white shithole, they don't really care because the shithole doesn't have any real power on the global stage anyways, but a country like Germany, Russia, the UK or America is too much of threat for them to leave alone if they don't control it.

If you want to save America (or any other white nation, for that matter), you can't just kick the Jews out of America, allow them to do whatever the hell they want as long as it isn't on American soil, and not expect them to take revenge. Instead, there needs to be worldwide cooperation between all white ethnic groups (plus non-white nations who are willing to work with us because they mutually want to end Jewish world rule), to take away all the Jews' political power, consfiscate the wealth of all Jewish billionares and prevent Jews from freely communicating and traveling between countries, and imprison the most evil and hostile Jews.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Obvious troll is obvious

[–]shilldetector 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Jews built Germany

In what alternative universe was this? Germany was ruined by ww1. Say what you want about the Nazis, and I'm definitely not a fan, but they built Germany up from nothing to the preeminent world power at the time. One that was able to take on most of the world and still nearly win despite the constraints of Nazism and the madness of Hitler. They did all of that not only without Jews, but pretty much all of world Jewry opposing them every step of the way. They nearly won. Had Hitler invaded Russia just a few weeks earlier or Hitler not restrained his army at Dunkirk or the British bow out of the war things could have turned out completely different.

Your delusional Jewish supremacism combined with the fact your obviously a transparent midwit completely clouds your views. I do appreciate your honesty though. It's refreshing when one of you takes the mask mostly off and pretty much affirms everything we already know but aren't allowed to say. Of course if any of us were to repeat most of what you just wrote about Apartheid South African history we would be accused of being anti-semitic. Obviously some of the events are given a Jewish supremacist spin, but there's no doubt Israel and apartheid South Africa were secretly the best of bros, until you stabbed them in the back, as you tend to do.

[–]ShalomEveryone✡️ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Say what you want about the Nazis, and I'm definitely not a fan,

You're "definitely not a fan" but you're about to say something a fan would say...

...but they built Germany up from nothing to the preeminent world power at the time.

Sounds like you're a fan.

One that was able to take on most of the world and still nearly win despite the constraints of Nazism and the madness of Hitler.

Germany never came close to winning. Hell, Germany could not even invade England and there was only ~9 miles of water between England and Nazi Occupied France. When America joined, that guaranteed Germany was going to lose. It was only a matter of when. Hitler, sped up Germany's defeat by invading Russia. Because of that mistake, Germany ended up being occupied by Russia for over 40 years. It's crazy, Germany started two world wars and they lost both world wars, lol.

Jews played an important role in World War 2. It was Jewish engineers and scientists who helped American and Russian forces create nuclear bombs before Germany had a chance to. If only someone was there to talk some sense into Hitler, tell Hitler that there are very smart Jewish scientists that can help Germany. Oh well, Hitler's lost was America's and Russian's gain.

or the British bow out of the war things could have turned out completely different.

The British weren't going to bow out. Unlike Germans, the Brits would have fought to the death instead of surrendering.

Your delusional Jewish supremacism

No Jewish supremacism on my end pal. Nowhere did I say Jewish people are better than any other group. All I did was mention how Jewish people and the nation of Israel helped prop up South Africa. Giving a group of people the rightful recognition of their work is not supremacism.

Of course if any of us were to repeat most of what you just wrote about Apartheid South African history we would be accused of being anti-semitic.

Liar, what is it with people like you always playing the victim?

Obviously some of the events are given a Jewish supremacist spin

What spin? Israel did not help South Africa develop nuclear bombs? Israel did not have economic agreements with South Africa? Israel did not share technology with South Africa? South Africa was able to develop nuclear bombs without Israel's help?

but there's no doubt Israel and apartheid South Africa were secretly the best of bros, until you stabbed them in the back,

No one was stabbed in the back, if the Apartheid government wanted to keep relations with Israel, all the apartheid government had to do was end apartheid and treat black South Africans with respect. The apartheid government did not want to so Israel's hand was forced and Israel had to end relations with the apartheid government.

Shalom

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[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

There's nothing to show for it because the country is no longer being propped up by Israel and international Jewish bankers. You think it's a coincidence as Israel started distancing itself from South Africa politically, economically, scientifically the country started to go to shit? White South Africans knew they couldn't do it on their own which is why they were so dependent on Israel all those years.

South Africa didn't go to shit because Jews stopped propping it up, you psychopathic anti-white parasite. South Africa went to shit because it literally got boycotted by the entire world, and because the subverters and traitors in South Africa lied to the general white South African population by convincing them Apartheid had to be dismantled because South Africa wouldn't survive the international boycott. If South Africa had never abolished Apartheid, white South Africans would've been better off today.

Let's see how long Israel would last before going to shit, if the entire world suddenly decided to boycott Israel, stopped propping Israel up and forced Israel to transition into a multiethnic/multiracial democracy where Palestinians and African refugees get to make the rules.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Let's see how long Israel would last before going to shit, if the entire world suddenly decided to boycott Israel, stopped propping Israel up and forced Israel to transition into a multiethnic/multiracial democracy where Palestinians and African refugees get to make the rules.

I know an antiracist for the job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRpJ3SIzeRo

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How much longer are we going to entertain this troll?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

South Africa is as old as the 1600s. That's way before Israel was a state. Although I don't deny there where collaborations.

[–]ShalomEveryone✡️ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

South Africa is as old as the 1600s.

I'm glad you brought that up. Israel was not a country yet but Jewish people were still responsible for South Africa. Jewish cartographers in Portugal assisted Bartolomeu Dias and Vasco da Gama who first sailed around the Cape of Good Hope in 1488 and 1497. Jews made it possible for Portuguese explorers to make it to Cape of Good Hope back in 1488. Over a hundred years before the 1600s you mentioned.

Jews were among the first settlers in Cape Town when the Dutch East India Company established the first European settlement.

Aaron and Daniel de Pass were the first to open up Namaqualand, and from 1849 to 1886 they were the largest shipowners in Cape Town, and leaders of the sealing, whaling, and fishing industries. Jews were among the first to take to ostrich-farming and played a role in the early diamond industry. Jews also played some part in early South African politics. Captain Joshua Norden was shot at the head of his Mounted Burghers in the Xhosa War of 1846.

Jews built South Africa, Jews made South Africa a powerful nation. It's no surprise that South Africa went to shit when Israel stopped propping up South Africa.

Shalom

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why were they assisting them instead of just sailing there on their own? Where did any of the ships came from that even made the journey to South Africa possible?

It's fine for Jews to help, but they don't get credit for building everything.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jewish cartographers

Which specific Jewish cartographers helped the Portuguese in the late 15th C ?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

once Israel decided to stop propping up the white South African government

Israel stopped collaborating and sharing technology

Why did Israel do this?

Is there a publication that provides any additional information?

Whereas Israel was engaged in SA, there was not necessarily the level of financial investment that you suggest.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I have posted it before, but some have been suggesting that it is this way because there is a power vacuum, meaning it is hard for the new leaders to set up a full post-colonial system. Others will also suggest that Whites there still have 6x the wealth and more power than the blacks there. How does this compare to your information?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I have posted it before, but some have been suggesting that it is this way because there is a power vacuum, meaning it is hard for the new leaders to set up a full post-colonial system.

What exactly is the alternative to the "colonial system", and what proof do you have that this is guaranteed to even do anything?

South Africa during Apartheid was a country that looked exactly like Europe. They had the same laws, buildings, languages, technology. Even when you compare the Apartheid regime to its Black neighbors, none of them where ever seen as being more advanced or capable than White South Africa was in any point of their history.

Others will also suggest that Whites there still have 6x the wealth and more power than the blacks there.

They always had that wealth. Compare the average European country to the average African one and the gap is even bigger (i.e Liberia, a country that was never colonized, has a GDP per capita of $621. A European country like Ireland that never even had slaves and was enslaved by the British, has a GDP per capita of $78,000).

This is where the equality paradox comes in. You can't expect certain races to all make the same income when virtually no examples of that exist anywhere. Even in America, a country that claims white people are "privileged", we know Asians have always done better in School and make higher wages than them.

How does this compare to your information?

After 27 years, with absolutely no progress of any kind being made, I rather accept that ending Apartheid was a big mistake. Other countries like Japan or South Korea where able to bounce back quickly and become a global phenomenon after their initial hardships from WW2.

Edit: And even if you ignore the economic prospects, both Japan and South Korea are much more desirable places to live. Low crime rates in general means citizens have nothing to fear. If one where to move to South Africa, it's always a risk just to walk outside or even being in your own home.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Simply put, it's just whatever is fully decolonized, puts the country in order, and fullbe within their own means. They will say it's a difficult process that goes beyond just granting independence, or will claim post-apartheid leaders still serve White interests first. That's what they claim will become when justice arrives.

My point about White South Africans having the most wealth does stand though due to their extensive work there. Regardless, there are still claims that is stolen wealth/denied to non-Whites, and that it is a slow process to have it their way.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Simply put, it's just whatever is fully decolonized, puts the country in order, and fullbe within their own means. They will say it's a difficult process that goes beyond just granting independence, or will claim post-apartheid leaders still serve White interests first. That's what they claim will become when justice arrives.

That type of proposal literally calls for South Africa to stop existing. It was founded and built by European Colonists, and their influence is the exact reason it was only able to prosper, as opposed to looking like their neighbors.

Regardless, there are still claims that is stolen wealth/denied to non-Whites, and that it is a slow process to have it their way.

You can't steal something that never belonged to them in the first place. In the worst case scenario, it could only be argued that Whites who ran South Africa may have exploited their position, but that's not the same thing as say... invading another country and stealing all their lab equipment. Again, compare the wealth and technology gap that has ALWAYS existed between Africa and the rest of the world.

There was never a time in human history when Bantu tribes where seen as being the most intelligent or direct rivals to other civilizations. This is the explanation for why the gap's in South Africa will always persist after the end of Apartheid. The country and its leadership were handed off to people who had no experience with building 1st world empires.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you. Definitely provides a good case against the crap going on and why what they built was worth it to all.

[–]Brewdabier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To start, increased immigration to Europe, force laws to accommodate blacks, higher crime in the EU.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I like to think that Elon Musk is so space-focused as a way to save his fellow Afrikaners. Here's hoping.