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[–]Pis-dur 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What I have in mind is that women are being propagandized into thinking real fulfilment comes from work and career and that family life is an afterthought and/or some kind of bondage.

How are they propagandized into such thinking? Honestly, my observations are that people think real fulfillment comes from Instagram photos in fancy places. Traveling, traveling, traveling, leisure time etc. - not work and career. And not only women. But that's just my observations. Maybe career is the key to such life. Don't know.

I agree but that's what has to change. Believe it or not a mere generation ago -- both my grandfathers did this -- a man could raise a large family -- paternal grandad was Catholic and had 8 -- on a single middle class or even working class income while living in a major urban center. None of what we look at around us is an accident and it could change if people wanted it to.

And you are sure that such huge families could give their children enough education? Especially in US, where it's not so cheap?

But you yourself just said that in reality people don't have a choice and I agree.

Yes and no. I see that nowadays everybody has to work. Both people in couples, otherwise they will not have enough money to raise a kid. However, at the same time, are people who actually made a choice and decided they don't want children. Because they don't want society, parents, family, friends to impose any behavior on them. Some of them are traveling, discovering places, they are spending all their money and time on leisure, putting photos on Instagram. They find it fulfilling. Nowadays people are more idividualistic, they couldn't do it earlier because of ostracism, now it starts to slowly disappear. Also, if you look at wealthy countries - why fertility is smaller than in poor countries? That's kind of question I would like to know the exact answer to.