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[–]peaceful 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (23 children)

Because no sane person wants a dictator micro-managing their lives, especially enjoyments.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (22 children)

Do you realize how nauseating and adolescent you sound? Were not talking about dictators micro managing lives here were talking about living in a society where people have certain rights but also certain responsibilities. Obesity is an anti-social manifestation. In no sane society should a person have the right to the 'freedom' to behave in ways that are harmful and costly to others. If you are too disgusting and lazy to shower and use deodorant before you get on the bus it is not your right and freedom to stink up that bus for the rest of the passengers. You have a duty to not behave in such an irresponsible manner and if you refuse to comply you have to be punished or coerced into curbing your antisocial behaviour.

Obesity costs the health care system 100s of billions of dollars and if you refuse to 'micro manage' your own life to prevent yourself from becoming obese then you are failing yourself and the people around you and there needs to be intervention.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Do you realize how authoritarian and bootlicking you sound? You sound like a kike.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You sound like a kike.

I didn't realize enforcing standards was a 'kike' thing. I was under the impression that every single functioning society in human history actually did that because only insane people value people's 'freedom' over the consequences and that it was actually Jews themselves who promoted social libertinism through among other means the Frankfurt School in an effort to turn Gentiles into worthless consumers more concerned with their right to buy a new dildo than their responsibility to contribute to their volk.

Or did I misread history?

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We're not libertarians. We're not conservatives. We're dissidents and many of us are fascists or fascist apologists.

I am a fascist. I want a system where the hive works together to achieve great things. The individual is not more important than the collective. Many individuals working together and sacrificing for the whole drive the race to great achievements. Your race is your extended family and there's value in giving yourself up to it. You don't achieve greatness with a bunch of fat hedonic degenerate coomers. You do it with team work, genetic hygiene, pride, family building, fitness, generational collaboration, etc. etc. Every great nation and every people that have achieved complex society has realized these truths. The truth: You get what you incentive. You reap what you sow.

If you're struggling with this it's probably because you were born, lived and will die under a state and government that is hostile to you. You live in a fallen place. Imagine living with a racial family working as a team. Imagine a state that actual shares your dreams and goals. Imagine living under national government worth dying for. Envision that nation and you will understand fascism better.

The authority of the State was not a product, but a presupposition. It could not depend on the people, in fact, the people depended on the State… The Fascist state, on the other hand, is a popular state, and, in that sense, a democratic State par excellence… Every citizen shares a relationship with the State and is so intimate that the State exists only in so far as it is made to exist by the citizen.“ — Giovanni Gentile

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You are confused as to what I was meaning.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You called literalotherkin authoritarian. You do realize that many of us a fascists right? Fascists aren't anti authority.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You aren't all fascists, neither am I anti-authority. I would just not call myself an authoritarian, and I wouldn't subscribe to the tactics of any of those powerful authorities from the past.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am now sure it is one.

[–]peaceful 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

I think stinking up a bus is more offensive to a person than obesity costs. There is a lot of money that can be allocated for health care if we want freedom to eat. My view is only subjective, the cost is worth the freedom.

But by your reasoning guns should be illegal since they will always cause mass shootings, murders and associated costs. Where do you draw the line in limiting freedoms? The answer is contingent on subjectivity.

[–]peaceful 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not libertarian and you don't need to troll. The question proposed is what would you do if you were POTUS, in other words if we had an alt-right government. Ending multiracialism would be far more important than your health tyranny.

[–]WorldSharp[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The question proposed is what would you do if you were POTUS, in other words if we had an alt-right government.

Not necessarily. Being cryptofash is a viable tactic to pass an agenda.

I plan on entering politics, and believe it or not, it's probably going to be as a Democrat.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know what the question proposed is and I'm giving my opinion on it. Reducing military expenditure and taking preventive action as a state to stop people from destroying their health by becoming obese are not mutually exclusive ideas. You can do both. Also I'm not just going to take say 300 billion dollars out of the military budget and just use that to treat people who have by their own decisions destroyed their health.

Also only an insane libertarian thinks preventative intervention in someone's life to stop them from bad behaviour that hurts themselves and more importantly their society is impinging upon their 'freedom'. You may not call yourself a libertarian but that's an idea that is fundamentally libertarian in its nature where personal liberty comes first and everything else be damned.

I wholeheartedly reject that kind of lunacy and it's the reason why libertarians are so irrelevant and fringe.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

But by your reasoning guns should be illegal since they will always cause mass shootings, murders and associated costs. Where do you draw the line in limiting freedoms? The answer is contingent on subjectivity.

Society needs guns to ward off predators. Why do you need a Big Mac & Pepsi everyday? Start drinking water and eat a salad instead.

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    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Most fat people are farmers who toil from sunrise to sunset and have time to engorge themselves on their labor? Please...

    By the way, I've never seen this much defense for sugary foods and other useless junk. Are you being paid by McDonalds so no one can be weeded from their toxic sludge they serve everyone? Eating an apple isn't actually meant to give you cancer or raise your risk of heart disease.

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      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      You're being dense. How about actually looking up the nutritional information found in fast food vs organic?

      Just in terms of calories and sugar content, a McFlurry or Large Pepsi will always be more dangerous than a glass of water.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      You seem to be focusing on something that we aren't talking about.

      Your obfuscation is amateur.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      If someone wants to get fat from farming, good for them I guess.

      But the effort in doing so is much harder, than grabbing a bag of chips from the store and performing no real exercise/activity for the rest of the day.

      Even the "fat" farmers you describe are probably still in shape since the entire business requires a level of movement or it fails.

      [–]peaceful 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      You have far more dangerous predators, and far more numerous, because of guns.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Naw, guns are safe when they're in the right hands.

      Remove "inner city violence" and America's homicide rate would mirror that of Europe.

      But we can absolutely live without Mcdonalds and junk food, whereas guns at least serve some kind of purpose.

      These companies are only selling this stuff because they suckered enough people into believing it's real food when it's just recycled trash. It's just like Tobacco companies of the past who convinced the public cigarettes were harmless. Except when it gave everyone lung cancer, they started going out of business. Fast food is just your ticket to getting a heart attack or diabetes with no other benefits.

      [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Just lose weight, stop with the cope

      [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I think stinking up a bus is more offensive to a person than obesity costs.

      Sounds like you've never had to pay taxes.

      But by your reasoning guns should be illegal since they will always cause mass shootings, murders and associated costs.

      No by my reasoning much like in Switzerland I'd make gun ownership for Whites mandatory but also fund shooting ranges and other methods that help people use guns in an efficient manner. As usual though every single time you talk with a libertarian you're only one or two sentences away from terrible comparison or loony hypothetical usually involving guns.

      Where do you draw the line in limiting freedoms?

      I draw the line as far away from wherever libertarians say it is and start from there. It's actually a pretty good technique. With foreign policy I just go to Max Boot or Bill Kristol's twitter and figure out the right thing to do by doing the opposite of what they say and it's the same with libertarians like you. Always do the opposite.