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    [–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    They do? Dogs, cats, horses, cows are all local optimums of animals in the same environment filling different niches.

    That's exactly why humans need diversity and why it is sad that our cousins have went extinct. Europeans also had more genetic diversity 10000 years ago than we do now, which is a shame.

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      [–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Why does no farmer say, "sorry my dear cow A, but the cow, that gives only half the amount of milk, (let us call it cow B) should make babies instead of you"?

      I gave another example of robot engineers doing exactly that.
      Also cow A and cow B are adapting to their new environment, being human cattle, where production of milk is a fitness criteria. For this fitness "advance", the offspring of the cows will give up other traits that it can't afford energy to because it has to produce more milk, let's say it gives up some immune responses, that aren't really needed in the clean and healthy environment that it is living in (human farms). It wont need to deal with wild predators either, so that can be some other traits that it loses to gain more milk production.
      These traits are now WIPED from the cow gene pool.

      Then, what would you know, ice age happend, population of humanity shrinks, most cows have to live in the wild again, cows go extinct because they require human assistance to survive. They're using all their fucking body energy on mostly useless milk production.

      Meanwhile cow Bs offspring was sent off to some random forest, where they kept some of their wild nature traits which allowed them to barely survive the ice age change of environment.
      Sure, CowAs where better in environment 1, but change the environment and suddenly CowBs are better.

      Wouldn't the diversity of breeding cow B with other cows increase the overall milk production (at least in the long run), if your theory was correct?

      Sure, it could happen. Much could happen. It could also be some random other trait that got boosted, like say lowering of the intake of food to the same energy output, which wasn't intentionally meant to increase milk production, but it just so happened that now the farmer could afford twice as many cows, so individually it didn't "improve", but overall it did? It is random stuff like that and admittedly it is completely random and unknown what benefits you might find. This is why it is called EXPLORATION vs EXPLOITATION. Exploitation is when you try to optimize one local optimum and exploration is when you try to explore the surface, you might find new interesting attributes that are worth optimizing for.
      Think of genetics as the surface of the planet.
      If you climb the tallest hill in Denmark, you might be king of the hill of Denmark, and you might try to keep climbing that hill to stay on it for generations. But if you go explore Norway or Sweden, by first going down the hill, then you will find much taller hills (mountains).

      Exploit = climb a hill (local optimum)
      Explore = find new hills (other local optimums)

      And sometimes the landscape of the earth changes, new mountains rise, old mountains fall.
      What was once the lowest point of Europe (least fit), might be a mountain today (good fit, not necessarily the best or optimum).

      Will a retard be the smartest person on earth, because it becomes ice age? No.... what might happen is that the offspring of these retards will get some genes that counter act their retardation. Now if that trait was transferred to normal whites, it could have a positive influence on the overall population. Maybe it would be bad, maybe it would be good. Most mutations are BAD, because they move the individual away from the normal range of the local optimum, but stack those bad mutations and you might end up on a mountain in Norway lol.

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        [–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Yes to the first question. I wont have time the next days to give a proper respons but you seem to get the overall idea

        [–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        In many ways, Jews are a good example of this principle. They are subhumans. Have all the bad traits, liars, deceivers, and so on. That are destructive to society. Yet thousands of years of inbreeding these negative traits have allowed them to find a parasitic niche where white Societies are the "perfect" environment for them. Everything that makes us good, is what they are evolutionarily, culturally and religiously developed to exploit.

        [–]Jacinda 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Sailer has a number of interesting articles on eugenics. Slightly off topic but you might enjoy reading them (further articles in the links).

        [–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

        Eugenics is a psyop. Yes there are some people who should not be allowed to reproduce, but what we need right now is not less White kids, we need more. Whites don't need "improving" because we are already more or less the cream of the crop. Society can't work if everyone is a perfect super-human, because there will always be leaders and followers, and there will always be people of lesser ability and those of greater. It's the way things work. Even in a brutal Hobbesian pre-civilization society the lower people would reproduce simply because more kids = better and if they didn't humanity would die out. Obviously the mentally retarded and others wouldn't (and shouldn't) reproduce, but that rarely happens anyway. When's the last time you heard about a downie getting laid, much less knocking someone up in MODERN society? In a better society it would happen even less, that is to say, not at all.

        Whenever I hear "We need to select for only the purest of muh Aryans guys" all I hear is "You stupid goyim need to have less kids than you are already, only The Elite™ (AKA Jews/Shabbos goys) should reproduce!"

        [–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        Eugenics is a psyop.

        Sure thing buddy, that's why all major Jewish globalist institutions and ZOG countries are vehemently opposed to eugenics, and are determined to ensure pro-eugenics laws never pass and supporters of eugenics get shunned from any position of power.

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        Yes there are some people who should not be allowed to reproduce, but what we need right now is not less White kids, we need more.

        We need more white kids, but they should disprortionately come from higher quality whites, not lower quality whites. Also, ironically if we had eugenics this would automatically increase the white share of the population since they would disprportionately deem non-whites unfit for reproduction.

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        Whites don't need "improving" because we are already more or less the cream of the crop.

        So you don't care about whites winning, flourishing and becoming even better versions of themselves, but would rather just have us wallow in some sort of cocky, paralyzing, self-sabotaging form of "pride", while our Jewish overlords continue breeding us into dumber and weaker versions of ourselves and our great ancestors?

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        Society can't work if everyone is a perfect super-human, because there will always be leaders and followers, and there will always be people of lesser ability and those of greater.

        Eugenics isn't about getting rid of anyone who isn't a super-human, nor about making everyone an identical copy of each other. It's simply about pushing up the normal-distributions of traits that are relevant to a higher standard, by making low-quality people reproduce less and high-quality people reproduce more.

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        Even in a brutal Hobbesian pre-civilization society the lower people would reproduce simply because more kids = better and if they didn't humanity would die out.

        This is literally an animalistic, third world, R-type way of thinking. But no surprise, since that seems to be a common theme among anti-eugenics activists.

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        Obviously the mentally retarded and others wouldn't (and shouldn't) reproduce, but that rarely happens anyway. When's the last time you heard about a downie getting laid, much less knocking someone up in MODERN society? In a better society it would happen even less, that is to say, not at all.

        You have a very narrow definition of mentally retarded, mentally retarded isn't limited to literal downies and people who literally can't wipe their ass or tie their shoes. The traditional definition of mentally retarded was anyone with an IQ below 85; this definition only got narrowed to people with an IQ below 70 because of angry civil rights activists, because the 85 IQ definition would imply half of all African-Americans are retarded.

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        Whenever I hear "We need to select for only the purest of muh Aryans guys" all I hear is "You stupid goyim need to have less kids than you are already, only The Elite™ (AKA Jews/Shabbos goys) should reproduce!"

        Whenever I hear: "Whites don't need "improving" because we are already more or less the cream of the crop", all I hear is: "You stupid goyim shouldn't be allowed to make yourselves smarter and stronger, only The Elite™ (AKA Jews/Shabbos goys) should be allowed to do that. Aren't you aleady "muh master race" anyways? Now shut up and let us continue turning you into a breed of weak and dumb slaves"

        [–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Sure thing buddy, that's why all major Jewish globalist institutions and ZOG countries are vehemently opposed to eugenics, and are determined to ensure pro-eugenics laws never pass and supporters of eugenics get shunned from any position of power

        Race mixing is a form of negative eugenics (disgenics?). Jews love race mixing.

        Also, ironically if we had eugenics this would automatically increase the white share of the population since they would disprportionately deem non-whites unfit for reproduction.

        That implies we have the power to do so, for one. This is a completely moot point since there should be very few or no non-whites in the country at all if we have the power to ban race mixing. Race mixing should be banned regardless of eugenics and non-Whites should get the boot regardless of eugenics as well.

        Eugenics isn't about getting rid of anyone who isn't a super-human, nor about making everyone an identical copy of each other. It's simply about pushing up the normal-distributions of traits that are relevant to a higher standard, by making low-quality people reproduce less and high-quality people reproduce more.

        The issue is how do you define high and low quality people? If you want to ban sub-85 IQs and violent criminals from reproducing, sure, but when I hear "eugenics" I think you're talking about much more than just that.

        This is literally an animalistic, third world, R-type way of thinking. But no surprise, since that seems to be a common theme among anti-eugenics activists.

        That's the point? I said in a Hobbesian pre-civilization context for a reason.

        You have a very narrow definition of mentally retarded, mentally retarded isn't limited to literal downies and people who literally can't wipe their ass or tie their shoes. The traditional definition of mentally retarded was anyone with an IQ below 85

        And that is true, I was simply posing the most obvious example there is. The only "Whites" with IQs lower than 85 would be retards, who are genetic dead ends, and mulattos, who shouldn't be an issue since they and blacks would get shipped back to Africa and anti-race mixing laws would cut them to an infinitesimal fraction of the population.

        Now shut up and let us continue turning you into a breed of weak and dumb slaves

        Jews do that by race mixing. Having Whites reproduce with Whites leads to better Whites 90% of the time. The only things that throw a wrench in this are Jewish things like drugs, alcohol, poverty, etc. which hold back and/or dumb down smart, low class Whites.

        Another point, everything has unintended consequences. Messing with genetics (directly or indirectly) is something you only want to do if you absolutely need to and have a good reason for. As I said, preventing sub-85 IQs and violent criminals from reproducing and preventing race mixing are no-brainers, but I wouldn't consider that "eugenics", when I see "eugenics" it brings to mind more drastic and particular action/policy.

        [–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Race mixing is a form of negative eugenics (disgenics?). Jews love race mixing.

        I agree, but what's your point? That we somehow can't both oppose race mixing as well as other dysgenic pratices that don't involve race mixing, and shouldn't make efforts (eugenics) to counter it? Jews also love dysgenics in general (when imposed on goyim). What the Jews are pushing isn't eugenics in our "far-right" sense of the term, but rather dysgenics. I'm still curious to hear examples of recent eugenics policies in Western countries determined to improve the genetic quality of the population that were allowed to pass.

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        The issue is how do you define high and low quality people? If you want to ban sub-85 IQs and violent criminals from reproducing, sure, but when I hear "eugenics" I think you're talking about much more than just that.

        You're damn right I do. I also want to ban anti-whites/race traitors, anti-eugenics activists, the disabled, the mentally ill, sociopaths/psychopaths, structural welfare recipients and people with severe genetic disorders/diseases from reproducing.

        I'm also strongly in favor any incentive to make the most intelligent, physically strongest, physically healthiest, mentally healthiest, most attractive, most brave, most ethnocentric/nationalistic/pro-white, most high-trust, most low-time preference, most high-trust, least anti-social, most difficult to brainwash, most creative and most productive white people reproduce as much as possible.

        All of this shouldn't be controversial whatsoever from a nationalist, pro-white perspective, and is only considered evil/taboo due to the woke, kosher, radically egalitarian, ethnomasochistic post-WW2 narrative forced upon our people.

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        The only "Whites" with IQs lower than 85 would be retards, who are genetic dead ends

        Just because they're retarded doesn't mean they can't and won't reproduce. There are plenty of whites with an IQ below 85 reproducing, definitely at higher rates than whites with an IQ above 115, and there are even more whites within the 85-100 IQ range reproducing, especially since our current governments disproportionately reward low-skilled workers and welfare reciepients for reproducing.

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        Having Whites reproduce with Whites leads to better Whites 90% of the time. The only things that throw a wrench in this are Jewish things like drugs, alcohol, poverty, etc. which hold back and/or dumb down smart, low class Whites.

        You've made blaming Jews so much the focal point of your worldview that you've come all the way round to being a radical egalitarian leftist who downplays genetic differences within the white race itself and assumes that all shortcomings within the white race must be entirely a product oppression.

        Yes, us whites are on average superior to most other races, but that doesn't change anything about the fact that there are superior and inferior people in every race. Jews just weaponize the existence of white people who are low-IQ and/or predisposed to drug addiction and alcoholism, to weaken the white race, by artificially making those types of white people reproduce more than high-quality white people.

        No offense, but this is basically just a nigger mentality, and niggers having this mentality is why they'll never succeed without outside help. Niggers are so convinced that everything bad that happens to them is entirely a product of white oppression, to the point that they're completely unwilling to acknowledge any genetic causes of their shortcomings, and thus are unwilling to support means like eugenics to improve themselves.

        Jews, of course, love this because they couldn't keep weaponizing niggers against whites if niggers stopped being niggers and started improving their own race instead of assuming it's all whitey's fault. I'm by no means saying Jews aren't keeping us down (because they do) and that we should stop calling them out for it or shouldn't try to stop them, but this isn't mutually exclusive to recoginizing the flaws within our own race and trying to fix them (with eugenics) rather than sticking our heads in the sand.

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        Another point, everything has unintended consequences. Messing with genetics (directly or indirectly) is something you only want to do if you absolutely need to and have a good reason for.

        Was the rigorous eugenic natural selection the last Ice Age subjected our distant ancestors who entered Europe to, which was responsible for creating the white race in the first place, "messing with our genetics"? Because my eugenics proposal would basically just emulate this Ice Age selection pressure, except maybe faster and more efficiently. What's truly messing with our genetics is the opposite of what I propose: The current dysgenics selection due the absence of natural selection combined with actively rewarding low-quality white people for reproducing over high-quality white people.

        [–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        That we somehow can't both oppose race mixing as well as other dysgenic pratices that don't involve race mixing, and shouldn't make efforts (eugenics) to counter it?

        You don't need eugenics to counter it, simply stopping it by preventing race mixing and kicking out the mulattos/octaroons/non-Whites should put a stop to it. Most Whites, even in the US, are like 95+ percent White, and in a country with very few/no non-Whites and illegal race mixing that percentage will only grow over time. The average IQ in America, not separated by race, is approx. 100 and without non-Whites in the picture that number would probably be somewhere in the ballpark of 105-110.

        Dissident values render active eugenic policies useless, because those on the "alt right" tend to have values that are passively eugenic anyway. Lazy negrified losers who do nothing but sit around and leech off of welfare would die out, literally or metaphorically, rendering half your argument null. We wouldn't need to prevent them from breeding because they would either be killed, locked up, or starve (or get off their ass and be useful), not to mention that such traits aren't really genetically decided anyway.

        Jews just weaponize the existence of white people who are low-IQ and/or predisposed to drug addiction and alcoholism, to weaken the white race, by artificially making those types of white people reproduce more than high-quality white people.

        Predisposition to vice is probably a thing, but in a society where drugs and alcohol are non existent and/or heavily restricted and policed it's a moot point.

        You say it isn't entirely the Jews, but that isn't true. 90% of the issues are primarily or at least partially caused by the Jews. Laziness and vice have less to do with genetics and more to do with upbringing and societal influence. Although I'm certain these things have some genetic influence, fixing society and instilling proper values in the population is much easier and I'd wager FAR more effective than any active eugenics program could ever manage. The Jews and their extreme influence over society, degradation of values, spreading anti-ethical and anti-cultural elements like rap music and progressivism and other dogshit into society are the chief reason for White failures in the modern age (and before) and if you deny this you are implicitly anti-White and pro-Jew.

        Trying to rid the White race of the problems you posed and other similar issues will only work if you attack the source of the issue. The source of the issue is not genetics, it is the Jew. Genetics are a part of it, but they are a symptom (a symptom that creates a second layer of symptoms). I agree we must end Jewish Dysgenics at all costs, but the solution is to get rid of the Jews and their lies, not further harm our birthrates and image among Whites by proving (in their eyes) the Jews' lies about fascism/the Dissident Right.

        You've made blaming Jews so much the focal point of your worldview that you've come all the way round to being a radical egalitarian leftist who downplays genetic differences within the white race itself and assumes that all shortcomings within the white race must be entirely a product oppression.

        Firstly, if anybody has opinions that make them similar in practice to a "radical egalitarian leftist" it's you. I'm a monarchist and do believe in strict hierarchy, but unlike you, I recognize that despite any efforts on our part, there will always be disparity and there needs to be disparity for hierarchy, and therefore society, to form. Trying to eliminate degenerate genetic influence within the White race is a good idea and should be pursued to an extent, but obsessing over minor flaws that can be solved in much better ways should not be the focus.

        Jews, of course, love this because they couldn't keep weaponizing niggers against whites if niggers stopped being niggers

        Whites for the most part don't act like nogs, despite the Jews best efforts. You're vastly overblowing the amount of Whites who act like this. Most Whites are semi-normal, semi-functional people, it's just that the "Florida Man" White trash are reported on more frequently so they seem like a much bigger issue than they actually are. If you compare the amount of willingly low-class, low-IQ, etc. to functioning, productive Whites the ratio is overwhelmingly in favor of the latter, and in a properly set up nation without Jewish moral, ethical, and social rot the former group would be so infinitesimal that would in effect not matter.

        Was the rigorous eugenic natural selection the last Ice Age subjected our distant ancestors who entered Europe to, which was responsible for creating the white race in the first place, "messing with our genetics"?

        (Assuming that the modern conception of the events are accurate,) No, because it was a natural event, not a man-made one. Active eugenics would be a man-made event and therefore would more easily bring about unintended consequences and side-effects. The more direct your interference genetics, the worse those effects become, which is one of many reasons I'm also against any significant level or gene editing.

        Because my eugenics proposal would basically just emulate this Ice Age selection pressure, except maybe faster and more efficiently.

        If you believe in Darwinian evolution (i.e. it takes a long ass time for even tiny changes to take place), then even making it more efficient by many times would still result in an unsustainably long-term project.

        [–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

        [–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

        You're moving the goalpost. First you said we specifically need retards and schizos, now you're saying we need "divergent" whites. There are plenty of "divergent" whites who don't have a low IQ or harmful mental illnesses, and there's no reason why the same type of potentially beneficial mutations couldn't also develop from them. No offense, but this just seems like a big cope.

        You are simply wrong in your analysis. You need a drop in fitness to explore the fitness space. Two normal whites wont produce a child in another local optimum. You are saying that these beneficial mutations can happen in normal whites, but this is wrong/unlikely. It is a cope to rationalize why you actually totally aren't wrong and why you totally don't need to change your perspective of evolution.
        Normal whites will produce children in the range of normal whites shown on the picture. Some normal whites will produce offspring that end up outside the range of normal and they have lower fitness than everyone else.
        To reach another local optimum, you must climb to the other hill top and you do that by first going down in fitness and then up in fitness.
        You don't do that by randomly having offspring by normal whites, because as demonstrated by the plot, they will land in the normal range with FEW outliers in the 2 divergent zones.

        I'm going to sleep but will reply tomorrow

        [–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        You are simply wrong in your analysis.

        Not an argument.

        You need a drop in fitness to explore the fitness space.

        Why? Be honest, do you actually just counter-signal eugenics because you're against it on religious grounds? Because it really seems so.

        PS: I edited my linked comment to add more detail.

        [–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Why?

        Because normal whites will produce whites in the normal range. Classic eugenics will produce kids that are close to PERFECT in that local optimum, look at the picture. It will cut off the divergent zones and likely also limit the range of "normal whites" so that most whites will now be located in a much smaller range but all closer to the local optimum (top of the hill). This will increase the AVERAGE fitness of the population by a lot, which will look good, short term. The moment the environment changes, your population is doomed (if this is unclear to you, why that is, then I can try to explain it tomorrow thoroughly, it is not intuitive, if you do understand it, then I wont waste time to explain).

        However you will never move outside of this hill, because natural selection SELECTS the MOST fit, ie. the local optimum and offspring of normal whites only fall within a small range. You wont suddenly have a white baby pop up randomly in another local optimum. Example: humans wont get bird offspring.

        Be honest, do you actually just counter-signal eugenics because you're against it on religious grounds?

        No, i'm not really religious. My Christianity posts mostly comes from the fact that jews really hate Christianity and christians. More so than white people. I'm pro white, and my antiwhite enemies hate Christians. So I've been exploring that area because of that.
        And I am not against eugenics.

        An example of using misfits to create better robots:
        They optimized the perfect program to run 4 legs efficiently, keep balance, fast movementspeed, and so on. They ran millions of iterations and found the 1 perfect configuration which was VASTLY superior to everything else. The robot walked soo smoothly.
        Then it lost power to one of its legs, and the robot crashed, because it didn't know how to balance with only 3 legs.

        But here is the thing, one of the other millions of iterations was PERFECT for balancing 3 legs only, and HORRIBLE for 4 legs. It was one of the first iterations that they removed from considerations because it had such a bad fitness score.
        But .... by keeping this unfit, divergent, configuration, they had a much more robust robot. Now it could run smoothly with 4 legs, and if it lost control over 1 of the 4 legs, it could divert control to the "bad" configuration, that was perfect for that job.

        Moral of the story: When the environment changes, something that was previously perfect, might be very frail in a new environment.
        You want a gene pool to be robust to changes in the environment. This is a good argument for diversity and for not mixing too much.

        [–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        There has never been an environment where the dumb, the weak, the mentally ill and the unhealthy had an evolutionary advantage over others, let alone an environment where being smart, strong, sane and physically healthy was a death sentence, and there never will be. This is pure theoretical drivel with no real-life implications, and sounds like it comes straight out of a woke pro-dysgenics anti-ableism community on tiktok or instagram.

        [–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Yet baboons outcompete chimps in Africa

        [–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Why is that relevant to this conversation? Seems like a false equivalence. We aren't chimps or baboons, we are humans and we can use intelligence, physical strength, and technology we produce to our advantage in order to shape our environment, flee dangerous environments and fight off (and if necessary eliminate) external threats.

        [–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        It is a cope to rationalize why you actually totally aren't wrong and why you totally don't need to change your perspective of evolution.

        Again, not an argument. Just more ad nauseam.

        Normal whites will produce children in the range of normal whites shown on the picture. Some normal whites will produce offspring that end up outside the range of normal and they have lower fitness than everyone else.

        We don't want to select for "normal" whites, we want to select for the smartest, strongest, physically healthiest, most sane, most cooperative, most self-sufficient, most ethnocentric, and most attractive whites. These whites will in turn become the new "normal" whites, and the cycle continues. The hundreds of thousands of years of natural selection in humans has proven that this works, or else whites and East-Asians couldn't have evolved from their sub-Saharan African ancestors in the way they did.

        [–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        We don't want to select for "normal" whites, we want to select for the smartest, strongest, physically healthiest, most sane, most cooperative, most self-sufficient, most ethnocentric, and most attractive whites. These whites will in turn become the new "normal" whites, and the cycle continues. The hundreds of thousands of years of natural selection in humans has proven that this works, or else whites and East-Asians couldn't have evolved from their sub-Saharan African ancestors in the way they did.

        The smartest etc are the top of the hill in that local optimum. Do you understand this concept?

        The rest of your comment shows a total lack of understanding of human evolution.
        We, whites and asians, exist precisely because of intermixing with OTHER species. It is actually a huge loss for humanity that these other species don't exist anymore.
        When it becomes ice age time again, we got to hope that we can survive this climate. Our family species definitely could survive those climates and out intermixing with them allowed us to survive and outcompete them as the climate changed. At this point we wont know if we will survive the next ice age, becuase the humans that did survive the last ice age are extinct now. We killed and outbred them.

        [–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        The smartest etc are the top of the hill in that local optimum. Do you understand this concept?

        No, intelligence is just pattern recognition, ability to comprehend and synthesize new infromation, and problem-solving. Those are traits that universally give those who are high in them an advantage over those who are low in them, not just in the current particular environment. It's just that in colder (and thus harsher) climates those traits give even more of an advantage than in the tropics.

        The rest of your comment shows a total lack of understanding of human evolution.

        Ad hominem.

        When it becomes ice age time again, we got to hope that we can survive this climate.

        If we were to enter another ice age, the dumb, the mentally ill, the weak and the uncooperative in northern parts of the world would be culled from the gene pool again, just like the last ice age did (which resulted in whites).

        [–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Your understanding of evolution is at baby level. It is really quite sad.

        I might do some longer posts later this summer to give an introduction level understanding of how population genetics work. It will likely benefit the sub overall

        [–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Your understanding of evolution is at baby level. It is really quite sad.

        No, you're just a gaslighting piece of trash, who has to resort to ad hominems like this to make himself appear like he's in the right. Let's face it, you're just against eugenics because you're a weird schizo who literally thinks whites are Israelites, and therefore you would never be allowed to reproduce under any sane eugenics policy. Go fuck yourself.

        [–]DragonerneJesus is white[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        It couldn't possibly be because you think evolution is linear, ever improving.

        Your thinking: "Evolution is survival of the fittest"
        "The strongest survive"

        Evolution = improvement over time.

        This is how you see it. Binary thinking.