How do you debunk the argument that "certain races need time to catch up?".

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[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

By explaining the difference between intelligence and ignorance. Blacks have never and I conclude will never catch up.

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    [–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Yes, if you give blacks white genes, then they'll catch up eventually.

    [–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You could selectively breed a race of genius Blacks. But we're doing nothing of the sort, we're subsidizing the stupidest ones to breed like rabbits.

    Even Richard Dawkins said of course eugenics works, it's called agriculture.

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      [–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      The more white they become, the more race mixing will happen, the more black genes will transfer into the white population, which will be BAD.

      It is another example of black privilege: getting white genes.
      And systemic racism: whites getting black genes.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      I've done this before but what usually happens is this:

      1. They say stuff like "jim crow & redlining only ended 50 years ago. Black people who lived through those events are still alive".

      2. They also bring up this 1972 study that says the IQ gap is closing. But they never explain just how much time is needed for it to close completely.

      https://www.edweek.org/leadership/black-white-gap-in-iq-scores-closing-study-finds/2006/06

      [–]FoxySDTWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      They say stuff like "jim crow & redlining only ended 50 years ago. Black people who lived through those events are still alive".

      This was already studied. Effects of slavery vanished after two generations. Sean Last has a good posts on this. (https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2019/06/11/slavery-and-modern-black-poverty/, https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2019/08/10/on-redlining-and-racial-bias-in-lending/)

      hey also bring up this 1972 study that says the IQ gap is closing.

      This is Flynn & Dickens paper. Charles Murray wrote a response to it. Apparently they cherry picked certain types of IQ tests and ignored others that showed no narrowing. Interestingly, I just read Murray's newest book and according to him, there was some narrowing in 1970s and 80s but then it stopped and didn't change to this day. (https://i.ibb.co/K9BXrYh/image.png)

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Alright, thanks for the sources.