Hitler is ok. (actually he's really cool)

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[–]fschmidt 5 insightful - 9 fun5 insightful - 8 fun6 insightful - 9 fun -  (4 children)

Modern degenerates get their info from videos. At the very least, anyone interested in Hitler should read Mein Kampf which shows his strengths and weaknesses quite clearly.

The result of Hitler is that Germany lost the war and was taken over by American Jews who turned Germany into a liberal cesspool. Is this a great outcome?

Hitler's weakness was his racism. If he had focused on Germany as a nation and culture, then he could have made an alliance with Zionists and then he would have gotten the atomic bomb first and won the war.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Hitler's weakness was his racism.

Hitler's weaknesses were a hell of a lot more than just racism. He was incompetent at ruling, ran Germany into the ground, he constantly blamed everyone around him for his fuck-ups, wouldn't listen to anyone who knew more than him, he was a drug addict and a lazy shit who slept in to midday during the middle of a war after keeping his top generals up until 4 or 5am watching American movies.

Germany did as well as it did in spite of Hitler, not because of him.

Just one example:

The Allies established a beachhead on D-Day because Hitler had given strict instructions that the armoured reserves weren't to be moved without his personal approval. When the Allies landed at Normandy, the Germans were caught unawares, but they had reserves ready, so they would be okay... except everyone was too terrified of Hitler's violent tantrums to wake him. He didn't wake up until midday, by which time the Allies has established the beachhead and broken through and the reserves were too little, too late.

He bled the cream of German's youth away, just throwing them into the meat grinder of Stalingrad because Hitler was determined to capture the city named after his hated rival Stalin. Stalingrad had zero strategic value.

He destroyed army after army by refusing to allow them to make strategic retreats to get into a better position to counter-attack. If a booze-added hobo had been in charge of the German army, he probably would have done better than Hitler.

He wasted vast amounts of manpower, time, money and most importantly scarce resources on building "superweapons" that he thought would win the war. They didn't, and they couldn't have.

Hitler was so bad at running Germany that the Allies had a number of opportunities to kill him and refused to do so because they didn't want someone competent to take over.

[–]CircumsteinRabbi Circumstein 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I love tearing ignorant, disingenuous fools apart. The source of the data I'm about to demolish you with comes from Jewish historian Eugen Weber (Varieties Of Fascism, 1964), which makes it all the more amusing.

German unemployment figures (p. 84):

6,000,000+ (1933)

4,000,000 (1935)

2,900,000 (1936)

300,000 (1938)

National revenue (Ibid):

45 billion marks (1932)

61 billion marks (1936)

National production (Ibid):

38 billion marks (1932)

75 billion marks (1938)

Volume of trade rose by 25% between 1935-39 (Ibid)

Percentage of agricultural products imported to, rather than produced in, Germany (p. 85):

30% (1932)

17% (1938)

I can only laugh at this kind of sheer ignorance, which does not even care to provide a source, and which relies on bizarre rumours (drug addict? Let me guess, you also think he was syphilitic, a gay prostitute while in Vienna, and so forth).

Many of these rumours originate from a charlatan by the name of Josef Greiner, who originally wrote a book sycophantically praising Hitler, claiming that he knew him personally. Hitler recognized the work as fraudulent and prevented its publishing. After the war, Greiner then wrote a book doing the exact opposite, painting himself (again falsely) as a heroic anti-Nazi resistance leader who tried to assassinate Hitler. Again, Greiner was widely accepted as a fraud who could not have possibly known Hitler. The syphilitic theory is one of many such lies from Greiner's fraudulent and refuted works.

Your claim elsewhere that the Nazis 'took credit' for supposed economic successes of the Weimar Republic is revealed by these statistics to be pure farce.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

which does not even care to provide a source, and which relies on bizarre rumours (drug addict?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC6zUcZJcDM

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you also think he was syphilitic, a gay prostitute while in Vienna

There's no evidence that Hitler had syphilis. I must admit the gay prostitute story is new to me. Its rather idiotic -- nobody who knew Hitler could have believed it.

a charlatan by the name of Josef Greiner

None of my statements came from Greiner.

Your claim elsewhere that the Nazis 'took credit' for supposed economic successes of the Weimar Republic

The Weimar republic managed to get through the period 1918 to 1924 despite massive war debt, hyperinflation, political instability, the army's hostility, insurrection from traitors like Ernst Röhm, the intransigence of France and Britain, international blockades, war reparations and more. They reformed the currency, brought inflation under control, kick-started the economy, increased jobs and trade, and presided through the Golden Twenties that ended only with the global Great Depression that affected pretty much everyone.

By 1929, Germany had five years of uninterrupted economic growth and rising incomes thanks to the Weimar republic. The economy was solid, and German's international reputation was much improved -- no thanks to the conservatives who tried to withdraw from the the Paris Peace pact. Even France had softened their attitude and reparations had been massively reduced. Germany was welcomed into the League of Nations and was no longer a pariah.

And then the Great Depression hit in 1929, which fucked it up for everyone, not just Germany. Weimar is no more to blame for the Great Depression than Iceland. But by 1932, the economy was recovering and unemployment was falling. Between August 1932 and 1933, unemployment fell by 1.1 million, and employment increased by 1.3 million. The economy was already improving before the conservative idiots handed power to Hitler, thinking that he would be their puppet.

The Weimar republic planned and funded the Autobahn system, with the first such highway opened to the public in 1932, the Bundesautobahn 555 (although not known by that name at the time). Hitler loved the Autobahns, and took credit for the plans which had already had money allocated from the budget, and extended it greatly.

Between 1933 and 1939, the Reich managed to increase government spending by over 23 billion Reichsmark; they had reduced their old (pre-war and Weimar) debt from 4.2 to 3.4 billion Reichsmark, but had taken on new debt of over 27 billion Reichsmark.

Like all governments, Weimar Germany made mistakes. But those mistakes were mild compared to the disastrous effect Hitler's war-mongering had, by 1945 a full quarter of the German workforce was made up of literal slaves, because so many productive German workers were dead, crippled, or in the army. The Nazi economy was a vampire, it was not productive on its own, it could only survive by sucking the life out of others.