[Podcast] Manifold Episode #7 | David Skrbina on Ted Kaczynski, Technological Slavery, and the Future of Our Species [01:18:52]

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

neo-primitivism, economic buddhism, or environmentalist minimalism(espoused by Keith Woods) or Fourth Political Theory(advocated by Dugin) are all wholly impractical and suicidal for the same reason libertarianism is.

It ignores the existence of the other.

You can deindustrialize or shift to a zero growth economy with rural lifestyle and pastoralism or whatever trad fantasy you have, but the rest of the world won't. Over time their economies will dwarf that of your own and a larger economy means a stronger military.

A larger economy means a stronger R&D sector, larger military budget and more advanced weaponry. It would only be a matter of time before other civilizations simply invaded your land and exterminated you.

This is the fundamental dilemna of technological progress: there is no stepping back. You must continue to grow and advance or you die. The late Ottoman Empire, the late Roman Empire, the late Abbassid Empire, the late Spanish Empire, the Polish commonwealth...History is full of examples of realms that were picked apart by their neighbors as soon as they stagnated and stopped growing.

Civilization is a one way road. You run till one of two things happen:

  1. One race/nation/Empire conquers the whole world and eliminates all opposition. Then it can deindustrialize and go green as it has no opponents left anymore.

  2. The wheels fall off. Human civilization as a whole collapses due to either dysgenics, resource depletion or global war.

There's no option however, for a break or a step back.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Over time their economies will dwarf that of your own and a larger economy means a stronger military.

Most white dissidents that advocate for traditional societies don't want the entire white race living in the sticks while the rest of the world advances to supreme military systems. That would be stupid and suicidal. If the Hutterites, Mennonites and Amish can live within the jew controlled clown world they can certainly live within a national socialist imperium as well. In fact I think a strong white fascist state would be even more robust with a healthy Amish like community inside it's borders.

Also how strong would non white countries really be if the bulk of white people turned inward and focused simply on living simple non technological lives? I doubt that most non white civilizations would really grow that rapidly without white inventions, white manufacturing advisors, and white consumers to sell too.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The future of our species is a vast global favela of 80 IQ mulattoes ruled over by a Chinese military government. The majority Chinamen themselves are impoversihed wage serfs but millions of their rank also serve as a global technocratic/middleman class who enjoy relative prosperity.

At the top however will be the CCP officials, the Chinese security state bigwigs and billionaires who may or may not be heavily race mixed with whites and Jews.

That's the end result of Jewish destruction of white civilization and the planet's suicidal adoption of liberalism. By killing Europe, shlomo has handed over the planet to Chang. Its like a house where the wife has poisoned the husband and thus left the estate open to plunder by bandits.

Perhaps there will be a few holdouts here and there like Russia or parts of the muslim world or lawless regions in Africa, but the planet as a whole will be under Chinese rule.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The future of our species is a vast global favela of 80 IQ mulattoes ruled over by a Chinese military government.

This is infinitely preferable to a JEWISH military government. The Chinese are puppets compared to the financial, military and spying power of world Jewry. If you think the Chinese can just knock out the US military and assume the role of world hegemon you're completely disregarding the strength of International Jews. You're also looking past the role of Jewish ownership of Chinese companies. Jews are going to play the Chinese off the US, profit on the carnage, and make the winner their bitch. Mark my words. They will most likely do this with a false flag in Taiwan that will trick the Chinese into invading and trigger a cataclysmic currency crisis when the US backs down and does nothing. Get ready for some fun when the US dollar is no longer reserve currency.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't care about "our" species. I only care about our race.

[–]Jacinda[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Listening to this at the moment. I have always appreciated the neo-primitivist's critique of modern society if only as a counter to the incessant propaganda of the technology boosters.

Rather than regecting technology altogether I am more a fan of appropriate use. For example, in order to score brownie points on the world stage, my government is subsidizing electric vehicles. A better response would be to design urban areas in such a way that vehicle use is minimized.

From the podcast summary:

David Skrbina is a philosopher at the University of Michigan. He and Ted Kaczynski published the book Technological Slavery, which elaborates on the Unabomber manifesto and contains about 100 pages of correspondence between the two which took place over almost a decade. Skrbina discusses his and Kaczynski’s views on deep problems of technological society, and whether violent opposition to it is justified. [Cont...]

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