Detailed study shows immigration is not making the Netherlands wealthier, nor is it benefiting the original citizens. It merely makes them minorities in an increasingly over-populated country.

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[–]Richard_Parker 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Why do we need studies to "prove" this?

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Within reason you need studies to prove everything, otherwise you are another idiot arguing with idiots. Some things that seem irrefutably true may not be. Not only that but anyone sitting on the fence watching two people argue will be more inclined to believe the science.

[–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yeah I do not know about that. Really do not need studies to show for example that female sexuality is more pliable, that women do not have the same hard codedz hard wired aversion to homosexuality that men do.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Then you are no more intelligent than any other fool who thinks that if they believe something is true then it must be.

[–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Oh do fuck off. Some things belie things like double blind studies. And you can also wait 20-3O years for scientific studies as the world goes to shit.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Some things belie things like double blind studies.

Yet this clearly does not as there is a study that we are talking about. That there may be some thing out there that can't be studied is absolutely no defense of your position that we should not study those things that can. Also, no one ever said you should wait 30 years for a study to be done before having an opinion on something. That is a strawman argument. That a study can take 30 years is no reason not to do it. In the interim you use your best judgement while also doing the research. That is the only intelligent position to hold on that matter.

[–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That is a strawman argument

Except it is not. There have been thirty or forty years of back and forth in things like deleterious effects porn or graphic violence in movies and games on young people. Pretty fucking obvious these things do have a number of links with varioue social ills, but we have have been tied down for the better part of a half a century because of myopic fixations in studies.

Ditto with things like effect n children being raised by gay couples, or this very matter , the degree to which bisexuality and homosexuality are variable and in fact influenced by societal norms etc.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

None of those things are "tied down" by the studies, those things are tied down by the (((people))) in power. The homosexual agenda is pushed by those in power and that is why there is nothing you can do about it. If there is anything that can turn the tied against that it is honest studies bringing about the truth. Unfortunately all the soft sciences have been taken over by those same (((people))) and are too corrupt to produce real science.

Without the science it is just you screaming into the wind while they use the media and the education system to indoctrinate kids while their brains are still undeveloped. Without science you have nothing. Without science there is only appeal to authority and you are not the authority. Every example of abandoning science for authority is a horrible disaster.

[–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I don't buy that, sorry.