Funny: In Peruvian election, 80% of Peruvians in US voted for the ultra-right-wing candidate

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[–]Jacinda 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

We should start collecting examples of this behavior.

The Indian population in the US behaves similarly. They vote Democrat and campaign for less restrictive immigration policies while simultaneously funding Modi and supporting Hindu nationalism at home.

Foreign Policy:

In U.S. politics, people of Indian origin skew Democratic—77 percent of the community voted for Clinton in the 2016 race. In a dichotomy that has left many scholars puzzled, a large number of them are supporters of right-wing politics in India.

“Modi has become a part of the winning narrative of the Hindu diaspora in particular,” said Ashok Swain.

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According to Sangay Mishra [...] “People likely to vote for BJP are middle-class and upper-caste Hindus, [...] The BJP has always been a strident nationalist position, and within that you see a particular variant of Hindu nationalism, which has a peculiar kind of appeal for this section of the diaspora.” [Cont...]

If you view politics through a racialist lens it makes perfect sense. Supporting liberal policies in the host nation makes it easier to exploit while nationalism at home reduces competition from rival groups. The real mystery is why anyone would be puzzled by this. Instead the writer (and the scholars he cites) turn themselves into pretzels trying to avoid mention of ethnic interest.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Nationalism my ass. Modi and the BJP are similar to Trump and the GOP in being faux nationalists, they support fags and trannies, muslims, lower castes etc. Modi himself is a fucking tea seller, the whole current crop of leaders in India are lower castes who fool upper castes into voting for affirmative action and diversity policies that hurt them. If anything the diaspora subverts genuine nationalist and reactionary sentiment by giving billions in funding to these buffoons and supporting their liberal policies. They're parasites to their host nation and their parent nation.

[–]NeoRail 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

the whole current crop of leaders in India are lower castes who fool upper castes into voting for affirmative action and diversity policies that hurt them

Do you know how this happened? It seems like a strange situation, you would expect the upper castes to dominate politics.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The British handed power to a very openly progressive and socialist organization when they were coming out, they had propped them up in the past as they were better behaved than other independence groups. Once in power, the progressive INC cracked down on traditionalists and upper castes harder than the British ever dreamed. They were forced to let go of their temples, land, and businesses and had to start back from the ground up. Today in India colleges and jobs all have racial quotas that would make Harvard blush. It's a large driver of emigration.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I have heard lots of bad things about the post-independence power centralisation of the Indian state - particularly under Indira, I think - but this is the first time I hear of redistributive measures like this. Still, aren't there tens of millions of upper caste Indians? It seems a bit shocking that they would not be able to develop their own political organisations. Granted, the same can probably be said for the West, but the circumstances are different.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Still, aren't there tens of millions of upper caste Indians? It seems a bit shocking that they would not be able to develop their own political organisations.

They absolutely have their own infrastructure, parties, NGOs, organizations, and even private militaries at time. The handicap isn't the lack of organization but rather the lack of caste consciousness and unity among upper castes. Upper caste Indians head both the organizations that campaign for their survival and their demise. Many in India, especially Boomers and Gen X are completely captivated by the secular egalitarian ideal of the Indian Republic. Even the so called Hindu nationalists have not really abandoned that as well.

There's a Flemish author who originated in the European far right but ended up moving to India and getting embroiled in the scene there, Koenraad Elst. He's written some good work on the impotence of the current cuckservative party in power.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This actually sounds pretty similar to what is happening elsewhere. Basically, the lower caste Indians all conceive of themselves as a single group with their own interests and values, whereas the higher caste ones either adopt those same lower caste values, ideas and politics, or form a loose, disorganised and ineffective opposition to them?

This is a very complicated issue to tackle, although in the case of India, I think the comparative advantage in absolute population numbers may help. Proportionately, the number of high quality political activists is very small, but given the large population of India, that probably still adds up to a large number of people with a significant amount of resources. If these people can form an organised minority, they may have the opportunity to choose from a variety of political strategies.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This actually sounds pretty similar to what is happening elsewhere. Basically, the lower caste Indians all conceive of themselves as a single group with their own interests and values, whereas the higher caste ones either adopt those same lower caste values, ideas and politics, or form a loose, disorganised and ineffective opposition to them?

More or less. The western media makes the Indian government sound more based than it is.

If these people can form an organised minority, they may have the opportunity to choose from a variety of political strategies.

This happens to an extent already and upper castes have secured favorable climates in states like Karnataka and Himachal Pradesh but it's hard to do anything beyond securing limited areas.