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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

So why don't you just state that in your post? Just say, "I think the alt right is full of incels. Do you agree?"

What should be done with them

Alt right incels or incels?

and their sexual theories?

I didn't know incels had agreed upon sexual theories. Being involuntarily celebate spans the political spectrum. I know that alt right folk (incel or not) have certain opinions on the modern sexual market place. Is that what you're asking? Could you please try to be a bit more direct in your questioning? You're not going to offend us.

Side note: the term incel only arose when some jew think tanks got together and tried to figure out a way to stop the rise of dissident politics online. 'Incel' is just dressed up way to insult someone and accuse them of being undesirable on the sexual market place, weak, unfuckable, etc. It's not a real term that emerged organically. It's politically manufactured to chase young white men back into the techno plantation. It's an elaborate ruse to try tell young men that if they attempt to engage politically they won't get laid and will die alone.

[–]weaselWhite Nationalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So why don't you just state that in your post? Just say, "I think the alt right is full of incels. Do you agree?"

I think you misunderstood. In the comment above, I was saying that I think that the analysis of incels is largely correct; I wasn't talking about the prevalence of incels in the Alt-Right whatsoever.

Alt right incels or incels?

Incels.

I didn't know incels had agreed upon sexual theories. Being involuntarily celebate spans the political spectrum. I know that alt right folk (incel or not) have certain opinions on the modern sexual market place. Is that what you're asking?

Yes, that is what I am referring to. Some examples would be the negligibility of personality when compared with the importance of looks, the 80/20 rule, etc.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yes, that is what I am referring to. Some examples would be the negligibility of personality when compared with the importance of looks, the 80/20 rule, etc.

Well it seems like you're just asking about basic gender redpill theory stuff.

The biggest misconception about the redpill community is that it's just a bunch of guys who can't get laid. In fact I'd say there are very very few men in the redpill community (again speaking about the dating redpill) that don't get laid. Young men specifically seek out the redpill information because they want to get laid and even with some basics that are taught in the manosphere most men realize they can get laid quickly and after that they realize that pussy is a much lower priced commodity in 2021 then they previously realized. Young men are essentially trying to figure out what their absent and/or emasculated fathers would have taught them had they not been subverted.

The 80/20 rule is real but outdated. Women are more hypergamous than ever and it's more like the 95/5 rule (which is conversely why we are seeing more 'incels').

In general women are not as oriented on looks as men are. That top 5% of men have strength, social approval, money, status, etc. Female brains are wired that if they see a man in a power position they find his looks appealing as well. It all flows from his overall power position in relation to hers.

[–]Richard_Parker 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I would only add to your comment social proof. Adam Carolla commented on this in one of his first shows. He noted that if a good looking actor (he gives George Clooney, never really understood what made him such a sex symbol, so I would suggest Christian Bale) starts dating and fucking a woman who is reminiscent of Natalie from Facts of Life, that will not make her more attractive to guys. While being a c list celeberity and having some money helps, David Spade apparently is nailing all sorts of ten California "mattresses"" (ie aspiring models-actresses) because he fucked Heather Locklear. So even though the guy is a manlet, feminine etc, these women learn about Heather Locklear, and, combine that with some modicum of fame and money, they pull their ankles up to their shoulders--like the dumb fucking whores they are. His buddy Ray Oldhafer is another example. Ray lost his viriginity at 14, and despite doing all sorts of stupid, gross shit (including shitting in a pool) and never being all that successful, according to Carolla the guy always had women around him. That early success at 14 brings about further success. It helps the guy is a freakishly strong specimen. Carolla thinks he could have made it in the NFL if he applied himself, but the real factor is getting laid at 14. Nothing succeeds like success, and that is most true with women.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I did not know that about Spade. Doesn't surprise me though. That's the power of social proof. Spade is short. He's getting old as fuck. His career was short and since he's not making many more movies he's probably running out of money. Heck he's not even traditionally masculine looking. YET he drowns in pussy.

I once heard the phrase 'genetic celebrity' to define attractive women and I think that's a very apt description. If you are a women you can't easily fake youth and beauty. You've got it or you don't. With men our appeal to a large degree comes from what we can provide, the experiences we gather, the social circle a women will enter into if she fuck us, and of course the attention her new relationship brings. Our genetic fitness for a women is a lot more resource based. Of course we could get into the dual mating strategies women use but that's probably beyond the scope of this conversation and getting off topic.

Thanks for your examples though. All very good stuff.

[–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you for the compliment. Learned about David Spade when Carolla was still worth listening to. By the way, did you see my post above? I mention Tom Wolfe's last novel I am Charlotte Simmons. Social proof is the determining factor in all her choices. And the is opposed to the unique, brightitund of am outcast herself...

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

did you see my post above?

I did.

opposed to the unique, brightitund of am outcast herself...

It's seems like women seek out that which they lack. If they come from money they get obsessed with artsy types or athletic types. They seem less worried about if the guy has money. Fame is always valuable though. Women project themselves onto the man they desire. They see the world as a giant social approval pyramid and assume men think the same. They have a weak theory of mind and can personally empathize but cannot creatively empathize about strangers.

You didn't by any chance post over on r/theredpill back in the day? Seems like that sub had a few years where is was on fire. I think a lot of redpilled writers ventured into the alt right space. There's some crossover between the two camps that's for sure. BAP is absolutely my favorite gender redpill/fitness/white nationalism crossover writer. I think we need some more of these guys. I'd like to see Chateu Heartiste and Roosh get even more into pro white nationalist literature. There's a need for this type of writing.