Do you find it odd that no country bans race-mixing [today]? And diversity as a whole is still legal?

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[–]Bagarmoossen 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Seemed to have happened a lot in Brazil

Except it didn't. The mixing in Latin America occurred very early on, firstly because of the initial absence of European women which forced the Iberians to take brides from conquered/genocided Indian tribes and later to the literal rape of negro slaves by masters, producing enslaved mulattoes. Genetic studies actually confirm that the male lineage of Latin Americans is overwhelmingly European, while on the female side the African and Indian genes predominate.

So, it wasn't a process that happened organically, it required the use of force by the conquering power against the enslaved and conquered populations. It would never have happened without coercion.

We can't be sure about the neanderthals, but I doubt that the coexistence would have been peaceful. Cavemen also aren't really a model to be followed by our civilization.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Cavemen also aren't really a model to be followed by our civilization.

It isn't inherently repulsive and destructive on a small scale. The race as a whole can assimilate a population if it's small enough without much issue.

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    [–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    Not all of those non-white relationships will be inferior or dysgenic. You’re also in no position to force interracial relationships to separate, it’s not a hill worth dying on if the population to be assimilated is small.

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      [–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      absolute racial purity

      This never really existed as Neanderthals kindly fucked our ancestors. The whole race shouldn't mix but it's not going to destroy white Americans if ~2% non-white DNA is added to the gene pool.

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        [–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Still, it is not difficult to determine someone's racial background by phenotype alone. And adding 10% African or Asian genes to a gene pool of a European population, let us say the French, will change their average appearance for ever.

        That's way too much. I'm only an advocate for people that have majority white DNA living with other whites. Far less than 10% of the population in most Western societies is even mixed. If mixed individuals with one white parent were living with whites it'd be ~4% non-white contribution at most.

        Africans have around 19% dna of an unknown hominid.

        It's more like ~7% archaic human DNA in Africans:

        According to a study published in 2020, there are indications that 2% to 19% (or about ≃6.6 and ≃7.0%) of the DNA of four West African populations may have come from an unknown archaic hominin which split from the ancestor of humans and Neanderthals between 360 kya to 1.02 mya.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_population#Population_genetics

        So I would still say that any mixing is detrimental, as it affects our unique phenotype, causes psychological harm to the individual person of mixed heritage, and infuses our gene pool with inferior genes

        As I said earlier I'm advocating for already mixed individuals, so what you consider loss of some phenotypes would've already been done. As for psychological harm, it can be damaging for some mixed individuals but that's not a rule.

        Source on the amount of mixed-race individuals with any mental illness:

        Zane and his co-investigator, UC Davis psychology graduate student Lauren Berger, found that 34 percent of biracial individuals in a national survey had been diagnosed with a psychological disorder, such as anxiety, depression or substance abuse, versus 17 percent of monoracial individuals.

        https://nationalvanguard.org/2018/12/mixed-race-people-have-more-psychological-disorders/

        The majority of these people will not have any mental illness and the vast majority likely have none or benign mental illness that is easily treated.