Does anyone else think economic prosperity at this time is a curse for our people?

submitted by Nasser from self.debatealtright

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-economy-set-grow-faster-than-us-this-year-goldman-2021-04-25/

Economic prosperity increases standards of living and increases job opportunity. Sounds good on paper.

But both these factors serve as enticements for non whites to want to immigrate to our nations, putting the clock towards replacement forward.

Capitalists and the establishment traitor governments wish to sustain this growth so they ease immigration and citizenship restrictions, increasing non white immigration dramatically.

Economic prosperity normally also leads to expansion of welfare, further enticing non whites in particular the refugees.

Economic prosperity expands support for the pro mass immigration establishment, cementing their authority for atleast a while. In conditions of economic downturn "radical" parties have a better chance of expanding and either replacing the establishment or forcing them to alter themselves.

On top of all that, economic prosperity has a correlation with dropping fertility rates.

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[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Prosperity for most of our people is going down, not up. You're buying into neoliberal propaganda. GDP growth does not mean our quality of life will improve, on the contrary. Working people are being squeezed like lemons.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

People talk about money, but I'm much more concerned at the environmental impact that Capitalism brings.

In fact, I talked about this a few weeks ago with India and the doomsday scenario I presented. By making the Earth inhabitable, we're going to see not millions but BILLIONS of refugees scramble across the world looking for some place to live.

And yet, thanks to industrialization, we're going to see an uptake in plastic products and oil being consumed at record rates. It's why in another thread, I also pointed out China eclipsing the USA in GDP is also going to be a disaster. Who is going to feed the billions of Middle Class Chinese people when they all start demanding they eat the same meat and drive the same luxury cars like us? Or if there's not enough food, they'll turn to the Wet Markets again and eat every single animal that creates a new Covid crisis...

Definitely something is going to have to change in the future or else we'll see societies collapse as entire populations get transferred continent to continent until there's no where left to run and consume.

[–]Girondin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If we accept group differences in cognitive ability, which is a factor in economic prosperity then they will always be enticed by our nations since we will be richer (see the book "cognitive capitalism" by Rindermann).

I am personally skeptical if we can turn the tides on economic prosperity (or even if that is good thing), most factors that increase national wealth are basically a matter of biology, geography and culture:

  • economic freedom (e.g. trade and property rights)
  • geography (e.g. mineral resources and proximity to markets)
  • politics (e.g. rule of law and peace)
  • human capital (e.g. cognitive ability and conscientiousness)

all the well-being & development indices developed all highly correlate with GDP per capita (r = .7), I know "correlation does not mean causation" but we know most economic growth comes from virtues (please note I don't mean any superiority or inferiority claim).

I think "economic prosperity"" is a misnomer since welfare is a factor here, if white are subsidizing a whole swath of people without any benefit then it is not prosperity (see this video to see the inordinate cost it produces) that is economic parasitism.

I think it still is a consensus among labor economist that immigrants are not a net good and many cases hurt natives (see the works of George Borjas) no matter how much they bring up Cuban immigration (which was the last major white immigration wave) or the magical effects of long-run look (yet they forget you need to stop immigration to get it).

Yet if each wave is followed by another wave, the economy may never get the chance to fully adjust, and the wages of the less educated could be permanently lower, at least until the immigration stops. - Nobel Welfare economist Angus Deaton

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Denmark is rich despite immigration.

The absolute worst part about immigration is the amount of time we are wasting on this problem.