What do we do about the inevitability of increasing false flags and staged events that sour the normie populace on dissident ideas?

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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You can't really control lone wolves or roleplaying neo-nazis that do their self-sabotaging demonstrations. All you can really do is ignore them and just move on. Not everyone should participate in public white activism. On one of the streams of Greg Johnson on Counter Currents, he advocates you should only participate in white activism if you can follow of the principle of doing no harm. It doesn't mean you have to kick out all the well intention individuals, it just means they will have to occupy roles that are not part of public activism. You are still going to need web programmers, graphics designers, and people that process mail, money orders, print out pamphlets, benefactors, etc.

[–]Node 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But are those lone wolves, or is that manufactured antisemitism? Are "self-sabotaging demonstrations" helpful or harmful to the jews? How many times before have we seen jews making their own antisemitism, because they believe it helps their cause? Many.

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There are genuine lone wolves that are just working class people that don't have much going for them in life. People with low self-esteem sometimes gravitate towards identities that they perceive will give them a cause to fight for and notoriety. This doesn't absolve Jewish influence because they adopt the caricature crafted by the media as a means of showing their resistance against society. They don't realize the caricature is not designed to be seen as a worthy adversary but an object of ridicule or as a symbol of evil. If Jews see the opposition as genuinely threatening they will co-opt the ideology and insert ideas that will lead to good things for Jews or disarm the means for the ideology of being effective politically.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There are genuine lone wolves that are just working class people that don't have much going for them in life.

And... if we were allowed to organize politically without being beaten in the streets, banned from the financial system, social media, etc. we could give those same lone wolves sane advice to NOT do anything violent, but rather practice the sort of politics our ancestors could. If we were allowed to preach openly, like BLM people are, we could make sure the public knows we AREN'T the terrorists or morons they say we are, since we can't even defend ourselves in the court of public opinion. The whole game is rigged against Whites, but somehow we live in a "White Supremacist culture" that must be torn down. What a joke.

Perhaps people should read The Culture of Critique.

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Exactly, probably the major problem is the difficulty of organization and what is the best political strategy for achieving ethnic self-determination. Entryism seem to work for leftists but it is hard to say whether they were smart strategically or just had state and elite influence that basically handing them those positions over a few generations. I don't think nationalists can count on that happening in a few generations because they have no state or elite backing and their demographics declining. Some people have suggested parallel institutions but where do you plant your flag and get the people to fund, build and manage these institutions? This is also includes resisting potential informants, subversives and other forms of state intervention. Who knows? I hope some people figure it out the solution and starting working towards major goals.