What is our Victory Scenario?

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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Here's the only route I see right now.

Independent media breaks more and more people away from the Jews controlled psychological prison.

Right wing states and regions straight up defy increasingly insane federal mandates.

Balkanization of the country occurs.

Balkanization leads to white areas prospering while mixed race leftist areas wallow. More whites move to implicitly pro white balkanized areas.

Federal government get's even more draconian in an attempt to reign in break away regions. The persecution is impossible to hide from the normie populace. Small scale armed struggles result from Fed overreach. Feds realize they are forced let these dissident regions go. Country dissolves. New world order becomes tyrannical over regions they do control and wages a cold war on dissident regions. New world war results when dissident regions are forced to ally with friendly foreign powers.

This is all assuming the vaccine doesn't cause a major population drop.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Here's something I don't get about the balkanization scenario.

America has a massive military. From nukes, to aircrafts, to naval carriers. That's not something that can ever be split up or shared peaceful. The closest scenario was the breakup of the USSR, but even then Eastern Europe tried that and they still have problems. Like Ukraine giving up their nukes basically allowed Russia to invade them now...

I just don't see America or any other nuclear armed Western country breaking themselves up without addressing this elephant in the room.

Balkanization leads to white areas prospering while mixed race leftist areas wallow.

This is assuming they're not put in some landlocked territory, that's devoid of any real resources and they need permission to access sea ports (i.e how are they going to get oil to keep the rest of society running?). Kinda like the rust belt right now. As a community, they'll do fine. But they're definitely not going to prosper economically.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Nuclear technology is real. Nuclear power is real but I'm not so sure nuclear weapons are as prolific or dangerous as the US military and the mockingbird media says they are. Joe Atwill from the the Powers and Principalities podcast with Tim Kelly thinks Hiroshima and Nagasaki were hit with fire bombs not nukes. Regardless, no world power would allow their use as they could destabilize the entire ecosystem. Basically I don't think the nuclear question is really going to be a big issue. There will be millions of white engineer types in the balkanized areas that can build nuclear weapons if needed. The ethnostate wouldn't really have or need an 'arsenal'. All any potential world nation needs is enough rudimentary nukes to do what Israel does and ensure some type of Samson scenario for anyone that attacks.

This is assuming they're not put in some landlocked territory, that's devoid of any real resources and they need permission to access sea ports (i.e how are they going to get oil to keep the rest of society running?

True. This is one of many impediments to balkanization, probably the biggest, but the alternative is mark of the beast and literal white genocide. The fate of free people all over the world is counting on whites standing up against anti human world government. We will need to stay positive and approach these problems when we come to them.

Kinda like the rust belt right now. As a community, they'll do fine. But they're definitely not going to prosper economically

The rust belt is certainly under economic attack but they seem to be suffering mostly from demoralization and death of spirit than anything else.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Nuclear technology is real. Nuclear power is real but I'm not so sure nuclear weapons are as prolific or dangerous as the US military and the mockingbird media says they are. Joe Atwill from the the Powers and Principalities podcast with Tim Kelly thinks Hiroshima and Nagasaki were hit with fire bombs not nukes.

Firebombs do not create a giant mushroom shaped cloud after being detonated in the air. Nor do firebombs give off deadly radiation that caused many Japanese people to become disfigured and puke their guts out in mere seconds.

Regardless, no world power would allow their use as they could destabilize the entire ecosystem.

There have been thousands of tests conducted with nuclear bombs after WW2. It's impossible to fake this type of weapon since they leave behind giant craters as proof of their explosion. Or the fact they cause mini-earthquakes. They have been used in peace time excercises. The reason we don't see them used in war again is because of M.A.D.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction

Basically I don't think the nuclear question is really going to be a big issue.

Look everywhere on Earth where land has been artificially carved up, and neither side can agree to the actual borders. That is why there is war and civil conflict. Israel/Palestine, India & Pakistan, Syria, Rwanda etc. Unless you can promise ever lasting peace between the races, then splitting up nuclear weapons (and the rest of the military) will have unforeseen consequences.

In fact, India & Pakistan is a perfect example of the disaster this brings. Both countries split from the same source, and now they both built nukes and point them at each other. Threatening the other side every time they infringe on their borders.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you for reminding me of the approved version of what we are suppose to believe about nuclear weapons.

If the elites are capable of massive historical hoaxes and false flags they are capable of other large hoaxes up to an including fabricating landing on the moon and nuclear weapons. We should question everything that has been taught to us.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We should question everything that has been taught to us.

Sure.

But ask yourself, what other technology has the power to damage DNA so badly, that there are still Japanese people feeling the effects of radiation today? Firebombs don't do that. In fact, they are only effective against materials made of wood or other flammable material. The Atomic Bombs destroyed entire concrete buildings.

Edit: And this theory the Elites tried to hide this falls apart. Nuclear tests have been shown to the public. Anyone was allowed to view them and take pictures.

Of course, walking into the Epicenter of these explosions would kill you, so please don't attempt that.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/atomic-tourism-nevada/

[–]TheWorldToCome 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

nukes are a scam dude, it was all fear propoganda

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ss7ka

https://atomicinsights.com/galen-winsor-asks-who-owns-the-plutonium-how-much-is-it-worth/

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm going to give you guys credit. You are the first people I've ever met that said nuclear power is not real.

Which is amazing because we use it everyday. If you ask your doctor or dentist to take an X-Ray of your body without any protection, they will refuse. Not because they can get fired for it, but because it could literally damage your body that you wish you didn't take the dumb challenge in bombarding yourself with radiation.

But if you really want to put the nuclear denial to the test, you need to visit the Chernobyl reactor that's in Ukraine. Deadly radiation still exists there. I do not recommend you actually try this, but if you think it's fake, visit the core of the building and tell me you don't start vomiting right away. I must warn you though, the consequences of this is extremely fatal if I'm 100% right.