The Advantages of a Purebred Chicken

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

How do you reconcile your belief in Christianity with evolution?

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Christianity is one of the many crucibles that molded Europeans into the people they are today. Does that fact alone not make it divine?

What's described in the short essay is not evolution in a macro sense. It's pedigree and breeding. Large scale evolution from my perspective has yet to be proven. The contention in evolution that all life emerged from a spark creating simple amino acids in a primordial ooze is weak at best and specious at worst.

In other words I believe in breeding and small scale evolution but maintain a healthy reverence for larger spiritual forces and traditions. The only reason our minds can reason at all is through divinity. Done correctly religious practices can maintain the genetics of an ethnic group and keep it on a positive trajectory.

Furthermore, the human unity found in faiths like Catholicism are not inherently pro race mixing. Saying the the world would be a better place if there was a universal comprehension of Christ does not mean that all races, nations and ethnics should blend themselves. I am not a white imperialist. I do not want to impose myself on other races and ethnics. I do not want a genocide of other races in any form. I do not want a white imperium where we manage for eternity all racial groups.* For me Christianity and Catholicism are not for everyone. They are difficult paths to follow correctly and it's no accident that whites are the majority of Christians. I've always liked Goebbel's take on Christianity.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Christianity is one of the many crucibles that molded Europeans into the people they are today. Does that fact alone not make it divine?

No. How would that make it divine?

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's complicated. Christianity in my personal opinion did not start in 32 ad. It was a continuation of an older tradition. Call it 'Israelism' if you will (and I believe 'israelism' is continuation of an even older tradition and Israelism should not be confused with zionism). I will probably get shit on from all sides here but Christ Jesus never intended to create a new religion, during his preaching he had practiced the same religion as the prophets, Moses and Jacob, which was Israelism (I do not like to use the term 'Judaism' for obvious reasons). He quoted from scriptures which we today use as well.

I'm of the belief that culture interacts with race. Race creates culture obviously (A maxim in the alt right I strongly agree with) but culture can influence race as well on a long enough time line; if satanic anti white neo liberal 'culture' continues for a 500 years white genetics will change drastically.

The European people would be a different people without Christianity. In fact I think Europe would not have resisted internal and external challenges without Christianity and thus we owe it our literal existence. In fact if you travel around most of the world you're not white or american, you're Christian, which says a lot. Christianity for better or worse is part of the European people as is Paganism. And therefore I call it divine. I believe that European people are divine spiritual people. Any long running religion of such a people must have degree of divinity regardless of the current state of such religion.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In fact I think Europe would not have resisted internal and external challenges without Christianity and thus we owe it our literal existence.

For centuries, Christianity was one of those internal and external challenges.

Christianity for better or worse is part of the European people as is Paganism. And therefore I call it divine. I believe that European people are divine spiritual people. Any long running religion of such a people must have degree of divinity regardless of the current state of such religion.

You do realise that this is a heretical and un-Christian view, right? Christianity acknowledges only one divine man and that is Jesus. Your idea that the traditions of a divine people must therefore also be divine is in contradiction with the Christian teachings of divine revelation to undeserving people. Christianity is maybe the one, single major religion that does not admit a compatibility between the divine and the human, Jesus Christ excepted.

I can see that you have spent a good deal of time reconciling Christianity with your personal character. I don't have anything against Christianity or Christians, but I felt that I should point out that as it stands, the version of Christianity you are following is not the Christianity of any of the major churches. I think you have the correct view of Jesus according to Christian doctrine - for example, I believe the Catholic Church also considers its flock to be spiritual Israelis (meaning God's chosen people). The distinction you draw between Judaism and Israelism, however, seems to me arbitrary and utilitarian. It is the same tradition and the same spiritual and institutional lineage.

I hope what I have said may be useful to you in some way, perhaps at least in making you consider this type of arguments now rather than later.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Any long running religion of such a people must have degree of divinity regardless of the current state of such religion.

You do realise that this is a heretical and un-Christian view, right?

Lol. Many of my beliefs about Christianity would be considered heretical. (what is considered 'heresy' changes though) The one you cite here would not be. Christianity after the First Council of Nicaea agreed on Christs divinity but later councils would affirm a 3 part divinity: God, the spirit and the son (aka the trinity). Christians do not believe that only Christ is divine: God the father is also divine as is the Holy ghost. The Holy ghost being the least understood of the three divinities in Christianity (I'm not going to lecture about Christianity though; not really the place).... Long story short, when I use the world Divine I'm not saying I believe Europeans are Gods. Just people of God and people with a spiritual soul and people that have the logos of Christ in them and their works historically.

I also believe the pope is not the real pope and the current seat of the Catholic church is empty. So I'm not claiming to be someone closely aligned with a common modern Christian doctrine if that's what you're digging into. To be closely aligned with most modern christian doctrine is essentially to be hopelessly philosemetic, anti white and complicit in a dangerous holocaust founding myth that threatens the west with total destruction. I can't support that and I'm proud to be on the outside of the current organized christian milieu.

I can see that you have spent a good deal of time reconciling Christianity with your personal character

Not sure exactly what you mean by this. Christianity and european character traits are basically the same thing. I don't think they need to 'reconciled'. My alt right race realist views brought me back to Christianity not further away from it.

the version of Christianity you are following is not the Christianity of any of the major churches.

I should hope not. All major churches are corrupted or heavily compromised by a dark demonic force.

The distinction you draw between Judaism and Israelism, however, seems to me arbitrary and utilitarian.

I respectfully disagree but maybe in the future we can have a fruitful discussion about this.

It is the same tradition and the same spiritual and institutional lineage.\

I strongly disagree.

I hope what I have said may be useful to you in some way, perhaps at least in making you consider this type of arguments now rather than later.

I appreciate your insights.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have an interest in theology, so I do not mind talking about it some more, if you would like.

Long story short, when I use the world Divine I'm not saying I believe Europeans are Gods. Just people of God and people with a spiritual soul and people that have the logos of Christ in them and their works historically.

That's not what divine means, though. Furthermore, this contradicts the statement you made earlier that the mere fact that Europeans have upheld Christianity for so long makes Christianity divine. If Europeans upholding Christianity makes it divine, but that is only possible because of the Holy Spirit making them divine people, then you are engaging in some bizarre and unnecessary form of circular logic.

I also believe the pope is not the real pope and the current seat of the Catholic church is empty. So I'm not claiming to be someone closely aligned with a common modern Christian doctrine if that's what you're digging into.

I can't support that and I'm proud to be on the outside of the current organized christian milieu.

What are you closely aligned with, then? Who is the last Pope you recognise as legitimate? Do you think some older form of Protestantism or Catholicism or Orthodoxy is the legitimate Christian faith? As far as I am aware, none of the recognised traditional churches have ever maintained a position like yours.

Christianity and european character traits are basically the same thing.

I would have thought the opposite.

I respectfully disagree but maybe in the future we can have a fruitful discussion about this.

Perhaps.