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[–]somewherenear[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

[–]grocerymannn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

where's the evidnce that the majority of NF's donors are Jewish? Or that a significant portion of the party's officials are Jewish?

[–]somewherenear[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hmm, that's strange. I must have skimmed right over the link. I just spent around 10 minutes looking for it to no avail. Sorry about that.

Anyways, it was a blog, so I'm not sure how reputable it was. I only included it's information, since at least half of it was corroborated partly in the Jerusalem Post article (that a significant portion of high ranking members of NF are Jewish).

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    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Well they have to moderate their message somewhat to get into power. The rise of right wing populism only started in 2014 with the migrant crisis.

    She's obviously not perfect but ia the best as far as France goes. You have to appease Jews to some extent till the overton window shifts further right. Till it gets to a point where banning or arreating national front would lead avmass revolt.

    You need 40% of public support for that and le pen is already at near 28%. Its not impossible to reach that threshold within 5-7 years.

    Plus none of those are some smoking gun. All leaders pay lip service to protecting minorities like Jews. She has no marital connections like Trump, not an employee like Macron or isn't a finance crony like Farage.

    [–]somewherenear[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Well they have to moderate their message somewhat to get into power.

    Jean-Marie Le Pen was not a moderate, yet he became a very powerful politician, mustering a loyal and rapidly growing voting base.

    You have to appease Jews to some extent till the overton window shifts further right.

    Again, Jean-Marie Le Pen did not have to.

    All leaders pay lip service to protecting minorities like Jews.

    Marine Le Pen is doing a lot more than just paying lip service.

    She has no marital connections like Trump

    I mentioned how Marine Le Pen's third and current spouse is a prominent Jewish politician. She most certainly does have personal obligations to the Jewish community.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Alloit was her boyfriend and they broke up in 2019. He was only half Jewish. They have no kids together.

    Jean Le Pen didn't hold any power or position in government. He remained a boogeyman on the sides, far from power. For reference, Jean only won 18% of the vote in the second round whereas Le Pen won 34% in 2017. The party stagnated under Jean, she revived to an extent.

    That being said, I'd prefer a younger, more attractive and more openly right wing candidate like Marion le Pen.

    And what's she doing other than lip service? She supports Assad, wants to ally with Putin and remove France from NATO

    [–]somewherenear[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Alloit was her boyfriend and they broke up in 2019. He was only half Jewish. They have no kids together. Jean Le Pen didn't hold any power or position in government. He remained a boogeyman on the sides, far from power. For reference, Jean only won 18% of the vote in the second round whereas Le Pen won 34% in 2017. The party stagnated under Jean, she revived to an extent.

    National Front had far from stagnated under Jean-Marie; it was experincing a steady, linear growth of which has continued under Marine. She can attribute much of her success to her father. Aliot was half Jewish sure, but still a Jew nonethless. He is a staunch zionist and has many connections within Israel. He was with Marine for around a decade.

    And what's she doing other than lip service? She supports Assad, wants to ally with Putin

    Under her own initiative, she has removed many dissidents from her party. Putin is in deep with the swamp and so expressing support for him is hardly notable. He is no ally of our cause. As for Assad, she only said that the West interfering in Syria is a mistake and that they should withdraw. She never directly supported him or his government.

    remove France from NATO

    I'm afraid the NATO promise is most likely empty. It is very unlikely that given the chance she would actually do it, since she has stated opposition to the 'Frexit' movement. She is very supportive of the EU, so why should it be any different with NATO?

    [–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    We see the same thing everywhere with "nationalist leaders" saying they will do everything to serve Israel. Otherwise they end up in jail, as happened recently with member of EU Parliament Lagos.