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[–]aukofthecovenantWhite man with eyes 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well the problem is that the new arrivals(assuming there even are any) dont know who the shills are. So when someone posts something misleading solely to make people who debate here look extreme, crazed or like assholes, people dont know it.

We do a pretty good job of staying level-headed with these people as is. I don't see anything that needs to change. It's easy enough to call out the shilling (politely) in the individual threads so that newcomers can learn how to spot them.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't see anything that needs to change.

Newcomers are constantly accused of being alts of shills. People that are here in good faith for genuine debate find a hostile environment as a result. It would be beneficial for the community in my opinion if u/send_nasty_stuff would consider implementing the approved user setting or perhaps requiring a certain account age.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Newcomers are constantly accused of being alts of shills.

I agree this is a bit of a problem and genuine new users might get turned off and not understand that the question they asked is a common shill tactic. However, I don't think an approved user setting would be good for the sub. I will run the idea of an account age option by the other mods though. We had one on reddit and it did help weed out some bad apples.

Might sound strange but lots of new trolls is a good sign. It means the sub is pissing the right people off and getting on the radar. We are all pretty use to trolls and we do ban the obvious ones (I just banned another salos clone account a few minutes ago). I think we just need to continue to be tactful with new accounts and try to help train genuine new users on troll and shill tactics people used in real time.