Derek Chauvin guilty in death of George Floyd: Live updates

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[–]AngryBannedRedditor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

He had a large amount of fentanyl in his system,

That's a lie.

fentanyl isn't what killed Floyd, and the amount in his system was similar to that found in people who took the drug and were arrested for DUI, but didn't die.

Blood tests conducted as part of Floyd's post-mortem autopsy revealed 11 nanograms per milliliter, or ng/ml, of fentanyl present. According to expert witnesses, this wasn't enough to be considered fatal.

He stated because fentanyl typically slows down a person's breathing, the drug was not a contributing factor based on his calculations of Floyd's breathing rate based on witness video, which at the time appeared about the same as a healthy individual.

While Floyd's toxicology report did reveal fentanyl present, expert witnesses at his murder trial have stated there was not enough to be considered fatal or impact his breathing and oxygen levels. Floyd died due to lack of oxygen from the force of Chauvin's knee on his neck.

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Your biggest mistake is relying on USAToday to "fact check" for you. 11 nanograms per milliliter is definitely enough to kill people. Here are some fentanyl overdose deaths recorded at the UCSF, two of which were measured at 11 ng/ml. Patients hospitalized for OD typically had 0.5–9.5 ng/mL. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6604a4.htm

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    We know he took a dose of fentanyl that was large enough to kill a normal person outright, and also had a meth in his system as well as heart disease. There is zero reason to believe his trachia was somehow compressed which caused him to choke to death when the autopsy showed nothing that would indicate that and pressure was applied from the back of the neck.

    [–]EuropeanAwakening14 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    Really, so how much fentanyl would it take to kill Floyd? Plus the meth?

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      [–]EuropeanAwakening14 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      So, speedballs don't kill people? It matters because he had an amount of fentanyl in his system that regularly kills people, shitbird.

      So, we can't know how much fentanyl it would take to kill him, but we know for a fact that what he did have wouldn't have any effect on him at all? Do you think it is unreasonable to have doubts about the motivations of these "expert" witnesses?

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        [–]EuropeanAwakening14 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        It's not that simple.

        https://www.healthline.com/health/speedball-drug#risks Increased chance of overdose For starters, most fatal overdoses result from using more than one substance at a time.

        According to a 2018 National Vital Statistic ReportTrusted Source, cocaine and heroin are in the top 10 drugs most frequently involved in overdose deaths in the United States.

        Plus, since the effects of each substance might be muted when you speedball, you might not feel like you’re that high.

        That false sense of relative sobriety may lead to frequent re-dosing and, eventually, overdosing.

        Respiratory failure Respiratory failure is another risk when you speedball.

        The stimulating effects of cocaine cause your body to use more oxygen, while the depressant effects of heroin slow your breathing rate.

        This combo significantly increases your chance of experiencing respiratory depression or respiratory failure. In other words, it can cause fatally slow breathing.

        Fentanyl contamination Coke and heroin aren’t always pure and can contain other substances, including fentanyl.

        Fentanyl is a powerful, synthetic opioid. It’s similar to morphine but 100 times more potent. This means it takes very little of it to produce a high, so it’s added to certain substances to reduce costs.

        Most people associate fentanyl contamination with opioids, but it’s making its way into other substances.

        A 2019 reportTrusted Source by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) highlights several cases of unintentional fentanyl overdoses by people who thought they were just snorting coke.

        Other factors There are a few other risks to consider when it comes to speedballing:

        Cocaine affects the heart and cardiovascular system. It may increase your chance of a heart attack. Both drugs have a high potential for addiction and can lead to tolerance and withdrawal.

        [–]AngryBannedRedditor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        lol! Take a second look on that chart, those who died of fentanyl overdoses in the link you provided also had other drugs in their system when they overdosed and died.

        Your very own link shows that the person who died from 9.5 ng/mL of fentalyl in their system, that very same person had BE, cocaine, levamisole, naloxone, norfentanyl, THC-COOH in their system.

        The person who died at the .5 range you referenced, well, that person did not only have fentalyn in their system. That person also had BE, cocaethylene, cocaine, cotinine, EME, levamisole, lidocaine, naloxone, nicotine and norcocaine in their system.

        [–]EuropeanAwakening14 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Right, like George Floyd who had meth in his system, a bad heart and probably nicotine and THC.