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[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (44 children)

If the manslaughter charge is correct, every cop that has had a druggie OD on them also is guilty of manslaughter. The fact that the jury was overwhelmingly black and female is the only reason he was sentenced for any of the charges.

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    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (42 children)

    No he didn't. The drugs are what killed floyd, the maneuver Chauvin used is one that is approved by security forces around the globe and wouldn't be a standard restraint if it were lethal.

    [–]AngryBannedRedditor 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (41 children)

    Too bad the defense attorney could not find a credible, competent doctor to say Floyd died of an overdose. You remind me of those people who said Heather Heyer did not die from a guy running her over in his car. Heather died from a "heart attack" as if being ran over did not cause her death. Floyd died of an overdose, not a cop having his knee on his neck for 9 minutes.

    [–]EuropeanAwakening14 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

    Ok, can you explain what happened with Chauvins knee? Explain the effect it had on the neck. Just curious because the autopsy didn't find any damage to the neck commensurate with choking.

    [–]AngryBannedRedditor 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

    Ok, can you explain what happened with Chauvins knee?

    He used his knee to kill Floyd, that's what happened.

    Just curious because the autopsy didn't find any damage to the neck commensurate with choking.

    That sounds about right because Floyd did not die from choking.

    Dr. Martin Tobin, a pulmonary specialist who works in critical care, testified Thursday that George Floyd died from a lack of oxygen, bolstering the prosecution's argument that former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin caused Floyd's death last May.

    "Mr. Floyd died from a low level of oxygen, and this caused damage to his brain that we see. And it also caused a PEA [pulseless electrical activity] arrhythmia that caused his heart to stop".

    Four factors led to Floyd's low oxygen level, Tobin said:

    • his prone position on the street;

    • the handcuffs that pulled his arms back;

    • a knee on his neck;

    • a knee on his back and down his side.

    "All of these four forces are ultimately going to result in the low tidal volume, which gives you the shallow breaths" that can't effectively bring oxygen into the lungs, Tobin said.

    Chauvin's right knee seems to have alternated between resting on Floyd's back and on his arm and "rammed into Mr. Floyd's left chest," Tobin said. He said that both placements would have an "extremely similar" effect on someone's ability to breathe in the position Floyd was in.

    Tobin told the jury that the officers made it harder for Floyd to breathe when they pushed the handcuffs into Floyd's back and raised his wrists higher as he lay on the street.

    "It's like [Floyd's] left side is in a vise. It's totally being pushed in, squeezed in from each side," he said, clasping his hands tightly together to illustrate his point. The effect directly interfered with Floyd's ability to breathe and rendered his left lung almost entirely unable to operate, Tobin said.

    As Floyd struggled to breathe, Tobin said, he eventually pressed his own forehead, nose and chin into the asphalt, attempting to "crank up" his chest to let air in. But as Floyd turned his head on its side, Tobin said, Chauvin's knee moved further toward the side of Floyd's neck, compressing his hypopharynx. Anyone experiencing that type of compression would find it "enormously more difficult to breathe," Tobin said.

    As a courtroom display showed a still image of Chauvin holding his knee on Floyd, Tobin noted that the toe of the officer's boot was entirely off the ground. "This means that all of his body weight is being directed down at Mr. Floyd's neck," he said.

    Tobin said he's aware that Floyd had preexisting medical conditions. But he concluded, "A healthy person subjected to what Mr. Floyd was subjected to would have died."

    Just in case you deflect to fentanyl.

    While Floyd's toxicology report did reveal fentanyl present, expert witnesses at his murder trial have stated there was not enough to be considered fatal or impact his breathing and oxygen levels. Floyd died due to lack of oxygen from the force of Chauvin's knee on his neck.

    [–]EuropeanAwakening14 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

    Lmao. So, all four police conspired to kill Floyd by placing their knees in these spots? Why don't people die from this every day?

    What exactly is the argument here for murder? That Chauvin purposely placed his knee in just the right spot and the proceeded to direct a war of attrition on Floyd's breathing with the help of the other cops by directing them where to put their knees and to pull his arms?

    [–]AngryBannedRedditor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    No, they did not conspire, which is why only Chauvin was on trial. The fact that police don't leave their knee on someone's neck and back for over 8 minutes on a daily basis is why people don't die everyday under the same circumstance as Floyd.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    People regularly die in the same circumstances as floyd. Those circumstances being an overdose on fentanyl resulting in respiratory depression and eventual arrest followed by death. People don't die from being restrained because the restraint in question isn't dangerous.

    [–]AngryBannedRedditor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    That's a lie, people don't regularly have a cop place his knee on their neck and back for over 8 minutes straight.

    [–]wristaction 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    expert witnesses

    Of the "nine out of ten doctors agree that Chesterfields won't tickle your throat" variety.

    None of whom examined the body.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (27 children)

    The original autopsy confirmed that he had lethal levels of fentanyl in his system. Go troll on another post, retard.

    [–]AngryBannedRedditor 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (26 children)

    That's a lie, he had no lethal amounts of fentanyl in his system. If that's the case, why didn't his lawyer find a doctor to say so on the stand? Let's make a deal, you stop telling outright lies and i'll "troll" elsewhere?

    [–]EuropeanAwakening14 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

    He had a large amount of fentanyl in his system, whether or not it was lethal can not be determined but it is not outside of reason to assume that it played a large part in his death. People die every day from small amounts of fentanyl.

    [–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Everyone with Covid dies of Covid, unless it's politically expedient to Jews.

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      [–]EuropeanAwakening14 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

      Floyd had a history of swallowing his drug stash when confronted by police. The time works pretty well. He also had methamphetamine in his system and a 90% blocked coronary artery to his heart. He was a ticking time bomb. You can't possibly hold a cop responsible for that even if the restraint is what put him over the edge, there is no way a cop could be reasonably assumed to treat every person as if they could die of a heart attack or overdose at any moment.

      [–]AngryBannedRedditor 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Floyd had a history of swallowing his drug stash when confronted by police.

      And yet, there was no evidence he swallowed his "drug stash" when he was stopped by the cop.

      You can't possibly hold a cop responsible for that even if the restraint is what put him over the edge, there is no way a cop could be reasonably assumed to treat every person as if they could die of a heart attack or overdose at any moment.

      A cop does not have to act like that, all he has to do is not put his knee on a guy's neck and back for over 8 minutes when he's already in handcuffs.

      While Floyd's toxicology report did reveal fentanyl present, expert witnesses at his murder trial have stated there was not enough to be considered fatal or impact his breathing and oxygen levels. Floyd died due to lack of oxygen from the force of Chauvin's knee on his neck.

      Too bad the cop's lawyer did not bring up the fact that he "has a history of swallowing his drug stash".

      "Mr. Floyd died from a low level of oxygen, and this caused damage to his brain that we see. And it also caused a PEA (pulseless electrical activity) arrhythmia that caused his heart to stop," he told the court. He explained Floyd's body position on the street, handcuffs pulling his arms back and a knee on his neck, back and sides, led to his low oxygen levels.

      [–]AngryBannedRedditor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Too bad the cop did not hire a Jewish lawyer, he would have won his case if he did being that Floyd had meth in his system. Jews make the best lawyers just like they make the best doctors.

      [–]AngryBannedRedditor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

      He had a large amount of fentanyl in his system,

      That's a lie.

      fentanyl isn't what killed Floyd, and the amount in his system was similar to that found in people who took the drug and were arrested for DUI, but didn't die.

      Blood tests conducted as part of Floyd's post-mortem autopsy revealed 11 nanograms per milliliter, or ng/ml, of fentanyl present. According to expert witnesses, this wasn't enough to be considered fatal.

      He stated because fentanyl typically slows down a person's breathing, the drug was not a contributing factor based on his calculations of Floyd's breathing rate based on witness video, which at the time appeared about the same as a healthy individual.

      While Floyd's toxicology report did reveal fentanyl present, expert witnesses at his murder trial have stated there was not enough to be considered fatal or impact his breathing and oxygen levels. Floyd died due to lack of oxygen from the force of Chauvin's knee on his neck.

      [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

      Your biggest mistake is relying on USAToday to "fact check" for you. 11 nanograms per milliliter is definitely enough to kill people. Here are some fentanyl overdose deaths recorded at the UCSF, two of which were measured at 11 ng/ml. Patients hospitalized for OD typically had 0.5–9.5 ng/mL. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6604a4.htm

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        [–]AngryBannedRedditor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        lol! Take a second look on that chart, those who died of fentanyl overdoses in the link you provided also had other drugs in their system when they overdosed and died.

        Your very own link shows that the person who died from 9.5 ng/mL of fentalyl in their system, that very same person had BE, cocaine, levamisole, naloxone, norfentanyl, THC-COOH in their system.

        The person who died at the .5 range you referenced, well, that person did not only have fentalyn in their system. That person also had BE, cocaethylene, cocaine, cotinine, EME, levamisole, lidocaine, naloxone, nicotine and norcocaine in their system.

        [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

        The autopsy results have been known since before the trial even began. You are definitely trolling, not even Reddit leftists have this much tunnel vision.

        [–]AngryBannedRedditor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        The autopsy results have been known since before the trial even began.

        Shown what? The fact that he did not have enough fentanyl in his blood to be considered fatal?

        You are definitely trolling, not even Reddit leftists have this much tunnel vision.

        Talk about projecting, you're just upset about the verdict and don't want to accept the fact that fentanyl did not kill Floyd.

        [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        The autopsy results showed that he had lethal concentrations of fentanyl in his system.

        [–]AngryBannedRedditor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        That's a lie.

        fentanyl isn't what killed Floyd, and the amount in his system was similar to that found in people who took the drug and were arrested for DUI, but didn't die.

        Blood tests conducted as part of Floyd's post-mortem autopsy revealed 11 nanograms per milliliter, or ng/ml, of fentanyl present. According to expert witnesses, this wasn't enough to be considered fatal.

        He stated because fentanyl typically slows down a person's breathing, the drug was not a contributing factor based on his calculations of Floyd's breathing rate based on witness video, which at the time appeared about the same as a healthy individual.

        While Floyd's toxicology report did reveal fentanyl present, expert witnesses at his murder trial have stated there was not enough to be considered fatal or impact his breathing and oxygen levels. Floyd died due to lack of oxygen from the force of Chauvin's knee on his neck.

        If you're going to reference the CDC link again, please be sure to include the other drugs reported in the system of people who died of a fentanyl overdose.

        [–]oneinchterror 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Heather was not "run over" you pilpul spewing scum.

        [–]wristaction 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Overdoses kill. Knees resting on spines don't.

        In human physiology, the airway is in the front.