change the banner

submitted by comcro16 from self.debatealtright

Considering that Russia-Ukraine tensions are heating up again, I demand the banner in this sub be changed to the Novorossiya flag to make clear that we stand with Nazbols rather than kosher "Nazis", and that there is zero tolerance for Russophobia, Zionism, Pinochet adulation and other neocon garbage on here.

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[–]Lugger 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

I demand the banner in this sub be changed to the Novorossiya flag to make clear that we stand with Nazbols

Hahahaha!!!

Yeah, come on, guys!! Let's show some solidarity for a bunch of hillbillies that occupied a part of a decent European country and started a war with the nation on Putin's bidding to advance his imperialist goals!

I don't get it... the alt-right folks claim to oppose neocon wars, but when those are waged by the Russians, they suddenly have noble goals and are deserving of support? Really? Neocons are only bad if they're 'Mericans, right?

Can't find a single reason as to why Americans and Eurocucks should support Russia and their leashed scummy Novorossiya (or whatever the hell they're called) retards. The Russians rolled in, took advantage of the unrest following the events in Kiev and armed thousands of mercenaries and bandits to fight the Ukrainians for them. That's it. That's the conflict in a nutshell.

I wanted to say that in the war, the Ukrainians are the lesser evil, but they're no evil at all! They're just honest folk who want to defend their country and retake what was occupied by the Russians and Russia-backed insurgents.

Think about that when u want to shill for Russia another time, OP.

[–]TheJamesRocket 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Jesus, are you just trying to be as dumb as you possibly can, or does it come naturally to you?

[–]Lugger 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for your input, Iwan, that was very helpful!

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Russia isn't Nazbol though they are "anti fascist" commie worshippers who will seek to destroy the nationalism of Ukraine.

[–]comcro16[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Russia isn't Nazbol enough because if they were all the Ukrainian nationalists would be sent back to where they belong - hell. Ukraine is not a real country. Ukrainian nationalism is a ZOG creation.

The real Nazbols have always called Putin a russophobic cuck for being soft on the Kiev monkeys, which he is.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The Ukrainian national community exists therefore it is a real "nation" and it has existed long before ZOG. Perhaps if history was different they could have been Russianized but it didn't happen and now it is impossible to make them think they are Russian.

The supposedly based Russian Nazbols idolize radical leftists and bolsheviks. The only respectable form of National Socialism is one that completely divorces itself from leftism. The goal should be to liberate socialism from Marxism not pretend that bolsheviks were actually good.

[–]comcro16[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The only respectable form of National Socialism is one that completely divorces itself from leftism.

Gladio was very based, sure.

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    [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Austria should be united with Germany. Their population in the past wanted unity with Germany.

    ukranian case it's just regionalism.

    No, it is one of historical conflict and oppression. The only reason so many Ukrainians speak Russian is because of the Russian Empire and USSR attempts to eliminate the Ukrainians national language.

    [–]comcro16[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    The Ukrainian "language" was literally invented in the 20th century. Ironically the Ukrainian "nationality" was actually invented or at least promoted by the Bolsheviks to undermine "Russian chauvinism" though it was later taken up as anti-Communist propaganda by Hitler and then by the USA.

    Before the 20th century, Malorussia was always seen as part of Russia and Crimea was seen as part of Great Russia.

    [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    If the Ukrainian language was invented in the 20th century why did the Russian Empire need to pass laws restricting is usage in the 19th century?

    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    What is the banner even? From what is it?

    [–]comcro16[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I have no idea.

    [–]Girondin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TabletopGame/VORTheMaelstrom

    [–]arainynightinskyrim 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Are you aware that Putin despises ethno nationalism and every nationalist group in Russia has pretty much made illegal and destroyed? Putin is not our friend and his war will only cause death of european people and a drop in fertility rate if ukraine.

    [–]comcro16[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Putin despises ethno nationalism

    Irrelevant because, endless whining aside, Putin has nothing to do with Novorossiya. The people fighting on the ground for Novorossiya have always considered Putin a cuck. Even Dugin is calling Putin a cuck now.

    every nationalist group in Russia has pretty much made illegal and destroyed

    Bullshit. Though non-systemic nationalists certainly experience various kinds of repression but that is true in the west as well. In terms of popular support, Ukrainian nationalism is actually one of the weakest in Europe.

    his war

    The west started the war.

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Ukraine jew country anyway

    [–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    We'll take your demands under consideration.

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Considering that Russia-Ukraine tensions are heating up again

    Neither the timing or content of the banner have anything to do with recent Russia-Ukraine tensions.

    I demand the banner in this sub be changed

    You should read How to Win Friends and Influence People. "Demanding" is not a very fruitful method to get people to do what you want them to do.

    to the Novorossiya flag

    I'm not familiar with the flag or the party/movement. Why don't you make a post informing the sub about it instead of 'demanding' we cater to you?

    to make clear that we stand with Nazbols rather than kosher "Nazis

    The dissident right is a loose confederation of groups and ideas. My understanding is the the 'nazbol' party in Russia is very different than the nazbol meme concept that the alt right has messed around with. Neither seem very serious. In general we don't post a lot of flags on this sub because it stirs up endless infighting and can be counter productive to our goal which is to facilitate quality discussion and debate.

    rather than kosher "Nazis"

    That's a weird comment. Nobody in the dissident right really uses the term 'nazi's' or 'kosher nazis'. The national socialists were a political party in Germany in the 30's and 40's. Modern 'neo nazis' have very little connection to Hitler's national socialist party or the ideals of German fascists (or any other fascists for that matter). 'Nazi's' is a slur term created by Jewish propagandists in the 30's and the only people that use it today use it as a slur. Furthermore, the skin head 'neo nazi' movement was small, full of feds and died in the 90's. Genuine white nationalists in the 90's hated skin heads as do most genuine white nationalists today.

    and that there is zero tolerance for Russophobia

    The banner image is not Russophic. It's a sci fi fantasy art work. Posters on this sub are not russophobic. Many are slavaphilles. Sam Dickson lectures and writings are often shared on this sub and Sam is an ardent supporter of Russian culture and people. He has been a strong advocate of alliance among western white nationalists and slavic white nationalists. Learn about us more before you rudely make 'demands' of us.

    Zionism

    If you think this image is pro zionism or this sub is pro zionism than you know nothing about fascist art or our sub.

    Pinochet adulation

    Where the fuck is this coming from?

    other neocon garbage on here.

    Neocon's are universally panned in discussions here. Lurk more.

    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I have a general rule that when people overuse movement slang and use it in often clunky ways that misunderstand the meaning of the term you can be sure they're some kind of shill. This guy is a great example of that.

    [–]comcro16[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I wasn't saying the banner image was pro zionism or russophobic you retard. I didn't even recognize what it was. I wasn't complaining about the image. I said that we should change the image to Novorossiya because it is in the news now and we need to make our solidarity clear.

    Where the fuck is this coming from?

    You aren't aware of the "Pinochet was based! Capitalism is eugenics! Muh helicopter rides!" crap? It was more common back in 2017 but you still see it sometimes now.

    Also when I say "kosher Nazis" I mean Ukrainian Banderites and Azov Battallion. Some of those are skinheads but not necessarily. Skinheads are definitely still a thing in eastern Europe if not in the US. They aren't always bad.

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I said that we should change the image to Novorossiya because it is in the news now and we need to make our solidarity clear.

    Ok. Then why didn't you just say that?

    I mean Ukrainian Banderites and Azov Battallion.

    Ok. So by 'Kosher' nazi's you mean nationalists groups manipulated by zionist and US intelligence? Got it. There is some evidence that Azmov is infiltrated by US and zionist that's for sure. I don't know much about the 'banderites' though.

    Skinheads are definitely still a thing in eastern Europe if not in the US.

    They are definitely not a thing in the US anymore and are only used as a boogey man by propagandists in the American luggenpresse.

    You should consider writing with more clarity and I would hope you consider using a bit more respect in the future as well. Your post was not very understandable or courteous. I will ask my mods if they think we need to show solidarity in relation to recent Russia-Ukraine tensions. Not because you asked nicely but because we care about supporting /our guys/ and raising awareness under the right circumstances.

    [–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Looks pretty cool. Here's a larger version https://i.imgur.com/GuXLA.jpg

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yeah I found it in a /pol/ art thread and liked it. I don't like a lot of sci fi art normally. Reminded me a bit of Starship troopers.

    [–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Reminded me a bit of Starship troopers.

    That's actually what I thought it was related to.