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[–]Lugger 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

We need someone like him in the US and Europe

U want a corrupt authoritarian ruler who has been plundering his country for decades? The leader who only succeeded in making himself and his oligarch friends rich by selling Russian natural resources and keeping the country a poor backward shithole? The one who destabilized a friendly neighboring country (Ukraine) by starting a bloody war only to get beaten and withdraw his army in disgrace?

No, thanks. I'd choose a Eurocuck elected official over a corrupt dictator like Putin any day.

[–]Richard_Parker 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Actually he put a lot of oligarchs in jail, stopped what was doing on long Yeltsin. Lost the war against Ukraine? So Ukraine annexed the Crimean Peninsula, and not the other way around?

[–]Lugger 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Actually he put a lot of oligarchs in jail, stopped what was doing on long Yeltsin.

I don't think so. I'm not an expert on Russia, but I know for sure that Putin's regime has been kind to the vast majority of oligarchs, and they continue to prosper under his rule to this day. Many of them are his close friends.

Come on, man. Russia is one of the most corrupt countries in Europe, and it's all Putin's fault. How long has he been in power? Since the 1990s? Putin is just an ordinary corrupt dictator who only rules to enrich himself and his inner circle, while the country's population remains poor as fuck and the country itself is a shithole filled to the brim with mud, litter and cheap labor from the former Soviet stans: I've seen a few videos that show the life of average Russians, and... Holy Jesus, I wouldn't want to live in that place. That's what happens to authoritarian regimes where the elites care about nothing but their bank accounts.

As cucked as Europe is, at least it enjoys high standarts of living and low levels of corruption — neither of which would be possible under an authoritarian regime, especially of someone like Putin.

Russia under his rule reminds me of African countries: the dictator and the elites reside in luxury palaces and enjoy first world standarts of living while the common folk, dressed up in rags, dwell in shit-stained huts located in equally shitty neighborhoods.

Such a good president, isn't he?

Lost the war against Ukraine? So Ukraine annexed the Crimean Peninsula, and not the other way around?

I was talking about the war against Ukraine, bro. Not the annexation of the Crimean Penisula! The war happened a little bit later when Russian-backed separatists and a few Russian army units occupied parts of the Eastern Ukraine.

Don't remember how well the separatists perfomed against the Ukrainians, but the Russian army suffered heavy casualties and was forced to withdraw, even though the Ukrainian military of that time was a total joke. The Russians even lost some of their newest tanks and APCs.

[–]SaidOverRed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

high standarts of living and low levels of corruption — neither of which would be possible under an authoritarian regime

that's not always true, just usually. It's possible to "stagnate" standards of living pretty easily if they are already high. That's not to say that capitalism doesn't have it's place, but I'm just pointing out that managed flatlining is a thing (see Japan).

As far as corruption being inevitable for authoritarianism, I'd challenge that too. It's certainly the almost entirely likely scenario because most philosophical precepts that get one to authoritarianism start out wrong and therefore stay wrong further on. But when starting out righteously, it could be possible to maintain with extreme transparency and enforced honesty. Basically I'm saying that the decay isn't inevitable. But it will bring to the forefront any problems that were already there under less rigid systems, like how communism shows the faults that already existed under the more 'happy' socialist systems that would have taken far longer to destroy those societies without course-correction.