Why do you think its become less common for the dissident right to raise statistics regarding crime rates and demographics, considering it was such a prominent strategy back in 2016-2018?

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

because everyone knows blacks commit all the crime, it's not news to anyone. jews just pretend that the reason the black tortured raped and cannibalised a family is because of socioeconomic factors and white supremacy

Why do you think this happened, and where do you see the dissident right progressing over the next 5 years?

because people realised facts and logic don't work. in 5 years we'll probably be in a worse position than today in terms of sheer numbers due to censorship and the like, but the people still in the movement will be much more serious. there will be less dead weight and more people ready to organise seriously when the next big recruitment wave comes.

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To give credit where its due, I genuinely do think that the mass statistics bombardment was an effective strategy for 'recruitment' during the nascent stage of the nationalist revival period.
The only issue is that they reached a level of saturation where more information wouldn't be effective. the 13/50 meme has really seeped into mainstream culture, and anecdotally, i've seen it popping up in even the most benign posts on facebook and twitter.
 
As for people becoming more serious, I think that's painfully evident. Its no longer about the frog memes and 'owning libs', and I certainly see an air of desperation within nationalists, or even people who simply don't want to see their people and culture die out.
 
I've seen many people who have risked their livelihoods for the cause, and they keep going despite the harsh social repercussions for espousing nationalism. They realized that they only have two options- political participation to prevent the demographic collapse, and building isolated white communities to weather out the storm.
 
To put simply, nationalism is no longer about a hypothetical scenario, but a struggle for survival. We've sen the msm harp on about spikes in nationalism/racism/extremism, and as an observer, this is an unavoidable, biological tribal response.
 
As an observer with significant sympathy for the nationalists, this was the one path I hoped we could avoid. But as the differences in ideology grows, this rise in political extremism seems unlikely to reverse. I think the last true pressure valves left is for establishment neoliberal politicians to adopt a facade of nationalist populism like we see with Macron and Boris, or for the rise of left-wing, anti-proletariat populist movements.