The dissident right should focus more on creating popular culture

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[–]NeoRail 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You are talking about mainstream conservatives.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I am talking about everything associated with the Right but yes, it is mostly in reference to "conservatives". It's not as if the far right has been producing any successful or influential artists in recent decades either.

[–]NeoRail 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

That would be precisely because of "suppression", though. Up until the postwar period a huge number of artists and artistic currents were "far right". These people didn't just magically disappear after 1945.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The lack of far right artists has nothing to due with suppression. You can try and make that excuse for film but no one is stopping a right wing person from writing a successful novel or book series but there barely exists any fiction authors who can be described as right wing in the modern era let alone any who have had good success. By the early 20th century the arts culture already skewed left/liberal, the 2nd half of the 20th century it became almost exclusively left/liberal.

[–]NeoRail 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Most right wingers can't even keep an account on Twitter for more than six months at a time and you think that there was nothing that impeded right wing artists in the postwar period?

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No, I don't. Being "right wing" doesn't even have to be radical. Whether radical or conservative there is a noticeable lack of artists who are not liberal or leftist. There are some conservatives who work in Hollywood but rarely in writing. Vox Day is rare example of a novelist. Nothing is stopping the right from making art. There are endless amounts of political books by conservatives and even many far right books get published but rarely ever does the modern right produce fiction writing.

It wasn't always like this and it wont always be like this. Many of the all time greats would be considered rightwing or conservative in their era, like Wagner, Dostoevsky, and Tolkien; and the further you go back in time the left and right concept becomes irrelevant.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Being "right wing" doesn't even have to be radical.

Being right wing is always radical, unless by "right wing" you really mean "liberal democratic". The fact to the matter is that all the institutions that deal with publishing and marketing are dominated by a group of people who despise rightism. Even if you write the best novel ever and praise the virtues of elitism, honour, loyalty, domination etc. these people will quietly sweep your work under the rug and pretend that it does not exist. I am sure that there are plenty of great novels written over the past century consigned to oblivion for similar reasons.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There are endless amounts of non fiction books that get published by both conservative and far right writers. Amazon still has tons of books we would consider far right or nationalist and prior to a few years ago would sell basically anything, even Kevin McDonalds books were on there for years.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Those are two completely different markets, pop culture has nothing to do with nonfiction.