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    [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Low caste Dravidians often name their kids after Napoleon lmao. Wanting to distance themselves from their ancestral low position, they take the names of western and communist heroes. Napoleon, Alexander, Hitler, Lenin, and Stalin are all often seen.

    [–]NeoRail 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    It's always ironic to see the old liberal slogans turned on the ones who first created them. Napoleon is the greatest and perhaps even the only martial hero of liberalism, yet he too is not woke enough and has to be cancelled. Nothing about this is surprising to me, since I have already seen a lot of people "cancelling" the Bolsheviks themselves for being far right evil racist imperialist colonisers and so on. It is still amusing to see leftists turn on their own history, though.

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      [–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      I don't think Caesar needed plebiscites to legitimise his rule. Napoleon did much to advance the cause of liberalism. His declaration of the French Empire only served to bolster the stability of the French state which could not sustain itself in a Republican form yet. It also pissed off all the European monarchs, which served his purposes well.

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        [–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Plutocracy isn't "the traditional way of doing things", is the point and moreover if anyone secured the rule of money in France, it was Napoleon.

        [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        He secured it for the betterment of the people in France.

        [–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Liberals use this argument about Europe today, too.

        [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I wouldn't call Napoleon a liberal to be honest.

        [–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        He wasn't a liberal on principle, but he did take up the liberal cause out of pragmatism.

        [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Liberalism back then is not liberalism today.

        [–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I disagree.

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          [–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          American joggers like her don't have that much influence on france I think.

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            [–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            TIL Napoleon had a mixed-race black general.

            [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            Napoleon did nothing wrong.

            [–]AidsVictim69 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Blacks are completely narcissistic in their view of history. Jews at least are able to have some level of appreciation of European history. For blacks if it isn't placing themselves in primacy then the history is "wrong".

            [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

            I can't get past the paywall.

            [–]NeoRail 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

            The entire article essentially boils down to "Napoleon is literally Hitler", so you are not missing much.

            [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

            Napoleon is pretty based but not that based

            [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            No one is.

            [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            5'7" based.

            [–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            I am conflicted on Napoleon, he is probably the man who did the most to spread liberalism worldwide, but at the same time he was a genius so he is very hard to hate.

            [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            I figured as much.

            [–]Jacinda 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Here's a text version of the article for anyone who is locked out.

            Intelligence Squared featured a debate a few years ago in which a panel of historians debated the merits or otherwise debated the merits of Napoleon:

            I intend to go down the Napoleon rabbit hole at some stage.

            I've also always regretted Kubrick never got to make his Napoleon movie — his attention to period detail would have made it interesting quite apart from the history.

            [–]DisgustResponse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            How popular is Napoleon in France? Any Frenchmen here?

            [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Many like him. He had some interesting ideas on state self-sustainability.

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              [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              The Russian Winter, yes.

              [–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              I do care if Napoleon had a hand in slavery. I do not that not a single tree in Germany and as left unscathed from the Napoleonic wars.

              [–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              The opening scene of the last Murdoch Murdoch is hilariously relevant.
              https://cheekyvideos.net/murdoch/Guardian_Of_The_Rune.html