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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Never said a word about genocide. There you go misrepresenting what I said just like I predicted. In fact that entire paragraph reads like some alt right parody of Jews guilt tripping whites about their evil genocidal oppressive ways followed by the implication that were getting our payback. No matter how many times I see some Jewish shitlib claiming its a wildass conspiracy to suggest were being demographically replaced, followed by expressing thinly veiled glee at exactly that happening, it still cracks me up. Another dead giveaway is no matter how many times you guys claim you dont give a shit about Israel, eventually you break character and issue some emotional defense of it. It's one of the dead giveaways and you guys can pretty much always be baited into it. The only goys I ever encounter that get defensive over criticism against Israel are evangelical dumbshits, and its safe to say you arent one of those.

It's a fallacy to suggest all immigration falls under a nefarious plot to replace someone else. I'm unaware of millions of people who just got off a plane in America, and immediately inherited a house that had a white person living in it. Since you bring up Israel, Settlers who move into the occupied territories and bulldoze Palestinian property to set up their own house, is "replacement". Guy who gets off a plane and buys with his own money a mansion on land that was never occupied is not replacement.

Jews and American blacks arent Islamists. They dont operate that way and arent generally suicidal, so not sure where that even came from. I'm starting to think you actually are Israeli.

You were arguing that overwhelming numbers prevents people from committing murder against each other. That's silly. We've had Presidential assassination attempts take place in broad daylight. Like John Hinkley shooting Reagan while surrounded by bodyguards. Meanwhile, I don't see any evidence that non-whites are even motivated in the slightest to remove all Europeans through violence.

Because the doors would immediately be swung shut. I mean if your plan is to demographically replace your enemy, its probably not a good idea to immediately call on the immigrants you invited in to attempt to genocide them, no? Even a complete moron would understand this.

Again, what do you base any of this stuff on? Like, I thought the government hated Whites and everything was against their favor? Now just randomly they're suppose to stop and take their side? You can't have it both ways. Somehow there's a conspiracy to rid white people, but then the conspiracy stops when they actually... do it? Sorry, that does not follow at all. You're also operating under the assumption that any genocide or racial hatred is somehow a calculated effort, but again, what precedent for this even exists? Did someone leak the .PDF file that gave away the rules for how this attempted replacement works.

"Ok, so the government is coming to oppress White people. But whatever you do, make sure White people still have the right to vote or hold protests. That's clearly the recipe for a successful oppression!"

Why would I need to prove that? Does anyone claim this is some conspiracy involving all non white people? LMAO.

Yes? I've said from the beginning that Whites already exist as a minority both on a global and micro scale. But you weren't convinced that it doesn't mean White people are actually suppose to stop existing.

Yeah events in Zimbabwe and South Africa arent exactly encouraging bro. Lmao. Ever ask yourself why there havent been any white people in Haiti for a couple centuries? Ever heard of what happened to the ones there were?

Failed Gotchas. Especially when you look at the governments that existed before they were handed to the Natives. Hint: the previous white governments outright supported slavery or pushed racial supremacy that lead to a splintered society. Now notice how that example doesn't work with say, Canada? Or maybe even Japan? Perhaps the lesson is to actually treat all humans equally, rather than violently forcing outcomes that represent doom? For example, maybe you can explain how did the African country of Zambia elect a White person and nothing bad actually happened to him?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Scott

Yeah because that could totally just happen right? It is true that whites were essentially ethnically cleansed or pushed out of city after city in the US once it became majority black. They may have most voluntarily moved, but in large part this was because it was no longer safe for them. Arguing with you is a total waste of time, but its still good for some laughs. Thanks.

Then maybe they're stupid because they moved without actually realizing their lives were never in danger just because their neighbor might have been Black? Thus perpetuating a stereotype instead of actually confronting it directly?

[–]antireddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It's a fallacy to suggest all immigration falls under a nefarious plot to replace someone else.

Never said all. There u go again.

Since you bring up Israel, Settlers who move into the occupied territories and bulldoze Palestinian property to set up their own house

Initially huge numbers of Jews moved into Palestine from Europe buying up land but not directly expelling Palestinians from their homes. That came later when their numbers were stronger and they began rushing tons more Jews there with the UK's blessing(using holocaust guilt of course)...so what they are doing in America and Europe isnt the first time Jews have used demographic warfare.

You were arguing that overwhelming numbers prevents people from committing murder against each other.

I wasnt arguing that. Again you completely misunderstand or pretend to misunderstand what I said. It prevents one group from completely wiping out another group. They can still murder and wage a low level race war, with Jews leading the anti white propaganda through their media, waging lawfare through the courts and their lobbying orgs, and organizing the politicians they bought against any white resistance or solidarity while flooding the country with non whites to the extent they can.

Meanwhile, I don't see any evidence that non-whites are even motivated in the slightest to remove all Europeans through violence.

The non whites are by and large just NPC's being used. Now most races and ethnic groups side with each other against others as a general rule(currently its really only non Jewish whites that tend towards outgroup altruism at their own expense), which is why these POC are ideal NPCs to be used by a Jewish elite. These Jews arent expecting them to wage an overt war on whites, they merely expect them to do what they always do, side with their ingroup against outgroups, and thanks to Jewish media, the outgroup they are most manipulated into working against are whites. Blacks are particularly susceptible to being incited against whites and Jews know exactly what wounds to pour salt in, what scabs to pick off to keep the hatred alive and increase it. At this point the incitement is less about killing whites than it is intimidating them, guilt tripping them, and scaring them into avoiding any solidarity or self advocacy. Whites are as much targets of the media rhetoric and selective censorship as blacks are. Increasingly the government will be used to do this though, as Jews have consolidated their direct control in the Biden administration. Even some normies have been alarmed by the fact so many Jews are placed in so many powerful positions directly related to domestic security and intelligence.

Then maybe they're stupid because they moved without actually realizing their lives were never in danger just because their neighbor might have been Black?

A few posts ago you were literally advocating segregating yourself as a way to avoid being a victim of racial violence. Now your back to playing stupid and spewing some koombaya cant we all just get along bullshit. You are welcome to practice what you preach and move to a mostly black neighborhood in Baltimore or St Louis.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Never said all. There u go again.

Then how about I prove it then? Like this conversation:

Initially huge numbers of Jews moved into Palestine from Europe buying up land but not directly expelling Palestinians from their homes. That came later when their numbers were stronger and they began rushing tons more Jews there with the UK's blessing(using holocaust guilt of course)...so what they are doing in America and Europe isnt the first time Jews have used demographic warfare.

I highly doubt anyone had the foresight to predict which direction Palestine was going to fall under using just Jewish immigration. It was only until war broke out did Israel actually come into existence and the resulting chaos that was the Palestinian exodus. Had it not been for that event, then Jews moving to Palestine would look no different to when Jews already moved to other Arab countries.

But once again, you have to operate under some kind of bold assumption that all non-whites who come to Western countries are secretly conspiring to take it over or expel the existing White citizens who live there. This is where the conspiracies fall apart. Year after year, non-whites have moved to the U.S or Canada, but no major political party is offering to take away all White people's lands, or revoke their citizenships, or worst comes to worst, advocate some kind of caste system where White people are forced into subservient roles. Even with all the affirmative action crap, White people still aren't forced to shine shoes or scrub toilets in mass. The richest Americans? Still white.

I wasnt arguing that. Again you completely misunderstand or pretend to misunderstand what I said. It prevents one group from completely wiping out another group. They can still murder and wage a low level race war, with Jews leading the anti white propaganda through their media, waging lawfare through the courts and their lobbying orgs, and organizing the politicians they bought against any white resistance or solidarity while flooding the country with non whites to the extent they can.

So show me this low level race war? Who is the confirmed leader of this organization? What is their platform and where can I read about it? It shouldn't be hard to find since it's a type of warfare all immigrants are going to partake in someday. It takes a huge leap of logic to suggest we're in the midst of some kind of anti-white murder pandemic, and yet examples like Saddam personally donating huge sums of cash for Israeli bounties don't even have Western counterparts. Where is the incentive to even hate white people or cause destruction? It comes across as an issue that will eventually sort itself out. Either the anti-white people will run out of money, or enough people will wont take these projects seriously and it eventually loses interest. I honestly think the latter is more likely to happen.

Everything is a phase, especially since society is never static. If we could move past 9/11 and even Covid-19 one day, then the same will be said about the anti-white hate. It's all going to lose steam when there's no audience to make a profit from.

The non whites are by and large just NPC's being used. Now most races and ethnic groups side with each other against others as a general rule(currently its really only non Jewish whites that tend towards outgroup altruism at their own expense), which is why these POC are ideal NPCs to be used by a Jewish elite. These Jews arent expecting them to wage an overt war on whites, they merely expect them to do what they always do, side with their ingroup against outgroups, and thanks to Jewish media, the outgroup they are most manipulated into working against are whites. Blacks are particularly susceptible to being incited against whites and Jews know exactly what wounds to pour salt in, what scabs to pick off to keep the hatred alive and increase it. At this point the incitement is less about killing whites than it is intimidating them, guilt tripping them, and scaring them into avoiding any solidarity or self advocacy. Whites are as much targets of the media rhetoric and selective censorship as blacks are. Increasingly the government will be used to do this though, as Jews have consolidated their direct control in the Biden administration. Even some normies have been alarmed by the fact so many Jews are placed in so many powerful positions directly related to domestic security and intelligence.

So non-whites don't have any agency for themselves? Even though they demonstrate self awareness every single day? I find it much more believable that most non-whites aren't actually interested in somehow harming European stock. That onus will always fall on the small but really loud minority of people who've always caused problems for the majority of people. As an example, I don't believe wars are something where 99% of the nation came to an absolute agreement and wanted to invade or bomb their neighbor. It's more like the President, or the Military Generals, basically anyone who commands authority at the highest level of society, will beat the war drum and convince other people to follow along. But using this example with race is much more harder. We don't exactly have a President of Black people, or Jews, or Hispanics etc. It's ultimately the individual's choice of every race whether they believe in fighting a race war or not. But the numbers suggest the vast majority just don't care and most likely never will.

A few posts ago you were literally advocating segregating yourself as a way to avoid being a victim of racial violence. Now your back to playing stupid and spewing some koombaya cant we all just get along bullshit. You are welcome to practice what you preach and move to a mostly black neighborhood in Baltimore or St Louis.

Funny how you pick those [extreme] examples. That's like saying go live in war torn Donetsk to represent all White people. Or Pyongyang to represent all Asians.

In regards to segregation, I welcome it because it falls under preference. But the stuff about violence is still true in regards to population density, and well, the fact that humans will always find reasons to kill each other. Regardless, it's still silly to treat every black person as a murder waiting to happen, in which case, Whites who moved away from black people for that reason only created a stereotype.

[–]antireddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I highly doubt anyone had the foresight to predict which direction Palestine was going to fall under using just Jewish immigration.

Zionists had been around for a long time trying to establish a Jewish state in Israel by any means necessary. No they couldnt have known exactly how things would play out, but they had been plotting for quite some time. They finally got what they wanted thanks to the Nazis and ww2. There is some speculation that the Jewish elite intentionally antagonized the Nazis by urging all out war on Germany when Germany was trying to avoid war with Britain, to include carpet and fire bombing German cities at a time Germans had large numbers of Jews under their control. There was even a famous book that came out prior to the start of ww2 that urged the mandatory sterilization of all Germans, written by a Jew of course. The book was predictably seized upon by Nazi propagandists. I honestly dont know whether this was all done intentionally in order to provoke a genocide, but when it happened it was then used as a pretext for the establishment of Israel. Given how ruthless and scheming a lot of the Jewish elite have been it wouldnt surprise me if some of them did see sacrificing many Jews in occupied countries as a worthwhile sacrifice in order to advance Jewish interests, mobilize against the Nazis, establish a Jewish state and suppress European nationalism. Regardless of whether this was all their intention or they simply took advantage of it after the fact I dont know. Norm Finkelstein has written about how this elite have created this holocaust industry to do exactly that.

As an example, I don't believe wars are something where 99% of the nation came to an absolute agreement and wanted to invade or bomb their neighbor. It's more like the President, or the Military Generals, basically anyone who commands authority at the highest level of society, will beat the war drum and convince other people to follow along.

You're making my argument for me. This conspiracy to make whites minorities in all their home countries doesnt take a lot of people. It just takes some very wealthy ones to make it happen. It doesnt require ANY complicity from POC or immigrants and doesnt even require a majority of Jews be aware of or supportive of it. Just look at the damage one man, George Soros has been able to do with billions of dollars. Now multiply that by about a dozen or so Jewish billionaires and some powerful and influential people aided by fanatical, vengeful and paranoid members of a Jewish ethnostate. All of them operating on the belief that inside every white christian is a Nazi waiting to get out and that Jews will never be safe so long as whites make up the population of technologically advanced nations with the capacity to wage modern warfare. Some of them may simply see whites as rivals as much as threats. Competition that if eliminated will result in more power for them and their coethnics.

You can call it crazy but I have even come across Jews online that have openly admitted they believe this is happening, albeit many of them believe it to be a good thing and see it as justified. Not all of them are for it though, there are Jews like framegame that oppose it because they understand how destructive and insane the whole thing is. There are likely Jews that pretty much know whats going on and support it because they figure the whole thing has already past the point of no return and enough whites are aware and have spoken out that if it doesnt succeed Jews are in deep shit.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Zionists had been around for a long time trying to establish a Jewish state in Israel by any means necessary. No they couldnt have known exactly how things would play out, but they had been plotting for quite some time. They finally got what they wanted thanks to the Nazis and ww2. There is some speculation that the Jewish elite intentionally antagonized the Nazis by urging all out war on Germany when Germany was trying to avoid war with Britain, to include carpet and fire bombing German cities at a time Germans had large numbers of Jews under their control. There was even a famous book that came out prior to the start of ww2 that urged the mandatory sterilization of all Germans, written by a Jew of course. The book was predictably seized upon by Nazi propagandists. I honestly dont know whether this was all done intentionally in order to provoke a genocide, but when it happened it was then used as a pretext for the establishment of Israel. Given how ruthless and scheming a lot of the Jewish elite have been it wouldnt surprise me if some of them did see sacrificing many Jews in occupied countries as a worthwhile sacrifice in order to advance Jewish interests, mobilize against the Nazis, establish a Jewish state and suppress European nationalism. Regardless of whether this was all their intention or they simply took advantage of it after the fact I dont know. Norm Finkelstein has written about how this elite have created this holocaust industry to do exactly that.

I forgot about the actual Zionist movement. But see, there where many differences of when Jews had an organization/movement that wanted their own nation state at all costs, vs immigrants from all over the world moving to White countries and becoming part of their culture. I did more research and even remembered that Zionist factions had their own paramilitary forces who basically tried to create a Jewish state in Palestine by force. Immigrants don't come to America, and immediately support a gang that bombs White Americans or the government, in some sort of coordinated effort to make America into a borderless nation. Ironically, look at Trump's support and there are clearly non-whites who even supported the border wall or require a nationality test to become a citizen. It even becomes more increasingly difficult to prove a conspiracy of immigrants somehow replacing white people, when immigrants in general are decentralized from one another. The Zionist movement had leaders like Theodor Herzl or Ben Gurion who acted as the visionaries for what they saw was an inevitable Jewish homeland. In 2020, both Democrats and Republicans fielded multiple politicians but it's not like competition did not exist on each side. But none of them ever gave an explicit platform that said "vote for me and I will seize every White person's land and give it to the next refugee/immigrant". The closest candidate to that, Bernie Sanders, failed two times to even get a socialist elected. Biden himself is even Centre/Centre-right.

You're making my argument for me. This conspiracy to make whites minorities in all their home countries doesnt take a lot of people. It just takes some very wealthy ones to make it happen. It doesnt require ANY complicity from POC or immigrants and doesnt even require a majority of Jews be aware of or supportive of it. Just look at the damage one man, George Soros has been able to do with billions of dollars. Now multiply that by about a dozen or so Jewish billionaires and some powerful and influential people aided by fanatical, vengeful and paranoid members of a Jewish ethnostate. All of them operating on the belief that inside every white christian is a Nazi waiting to get out and that Jews will never be safe so long as whites make up the population of technologically advanced nations with the capacity to wage modern warfare. Some of them may simply see whites as rivals as much as threats. Competition that if eliminated will result in more power for them and their coethnics. You can call it crazy but I have even come across Jews online that have openly admitted they believe this is happening, albeit many of them believe it to be a good thing and see it as justified. Not all of them are for it though, there are Jews like framegame that oppose it because they understand how destructive and insane the whole thing is. There are likely Jews that pretty much know whats going on and support it because they figure the whole thing has already past the point of no return and enough whites are aware and have spoken out that if it doesnt succeed Jews are in deep shit.

How are these elite Jews in anyway connected to each other? I do not disagree that crazy or radical elites exist, but why should we care about them when they're not the ones with any real power to enact laws or persuade people? George Soros could tell Biden to eliminate all borders and put white people in camps, but then Biden can just as equally tell him to piss off and leave his country alone. The President has more power just based off the fact he is the Commander In Chief of his own country and the military answers to him alone. Once again, for this conspiracy to work, you have to turn the country against itself. All the immigrants would need to support someone other than the President who would actually push forth an agenda to get rid of white people or strip their rights. But immigrants in general are not centralized like the Zionist movement was. Nor do they have an Irgun or Lehi that commit terrorist acts meant to collapse the country.

[–]antireddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How are these elite Jews in anyway connected to each other?

They are connected by Judaism. There are countless Jewish/zionist organizations and loose connections affiliations, family ties, religious ties, ethnic ties. They dont even need to directly coordinate with each other so much as possess a likeminded view on certain issues. Soros's son for instance is heavily involved in Jewish organizations, Zionist organizations, Holocaust survivor family organizations(since Soros hid from the Nazis for a while he is considered a "survivor").

I think there is simply no longer any point in discussing or debating these issues with you. You appear to be hopelessly ignorant about any of the topics we discuss. I dont know what to say. I feel like I have to explain everything to you in detail every post. You are either literally just playing stupid continually or just arent well read or informed enough about anything to really have these discussions. I wish you the best of luck. Thus concludes our discussion. Good bye.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Some Jews are atheist. Some are reform. Others are Orthodox. It's not really a great argument for why they have to be connected to a conspiracy or in anyway believe in it. If David Duke claims to be a Christian but then says he wants a White ethnostate, it does not act as evidence that every White Christian must also believe or push for the same thing. He is considered fringe for a reason. Those drawn to his ideology will support him, but his skin color doesn't translate to his beliefs being more widespread than they already are.

Perhaps if David Duke or George Soros were leaders of their own church, with millions of followers, you might be able to say for a fact the two conspiracies are related.

They dont even need to directly coordinate with each other so much as possess a likeminded view on certain issues.

Well that sounds all fine and all, but what do you do when two Jews are directly opposed to each other? Such was the case of Capitalism vs Communism? Millions have died in an effort to spread both ideologies.

[–]antireddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)