If Jews can brainwash entire races to modify their behavior...

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[–]antireddit 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

While their brainwashing certainly seems successful, it's hard to say just how successful it really is, since counter views are simply censored and people who express them vanished from public view through blacklisting, deplatforming, censorship, and threats. The alt right was becoming enormously popular before they set out using all the tools at their disposal in silencing it. This popularity didnt vanish, it simply got censored.

Younger people do seem noticeably dumber as well as increasingly conformist, but this could have as much to do with dysgenics as propaganda. Jews themselves seem to be getting dumber so its pretty much an across the board dumbing down with Asians being a possible exception. Jews have even had to resort to blatant discrimination against Asians in University admissions in order to maintain their academic dominance as their children fall further behind Asians and can no longer compete.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

If we're having this conversation right now, then clearly it means they are successful. Because the alternative should imply Jews don't control everything, and White people have no one to blame for the current downfall? Tactics like censorship is what every group that is in power use, because they have the means to do so. For example, you would never argue the average Chinese citizen is more powerful than their government. They are censored constantly, but they lack any real power to reverse it (i.e Tiananmen Square protest ended in failure).

On your point about intelligence, if someone can be smart enough to build Hospitals or Railways, why can't they also figure out they will need children to look after them once they get really old? That right there is a contradiction. Keep in mind, building infrastructure are complex activities that require years of thought and creativity. Yet the idea of having children takes less than a second to plan or act out.

Genes that make you successful must be passed from one generation to the next. Otherwise, no smart person can ever be born to begin with, or they all should have died out already.

[–]antireddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Tactics like censorship is what every group that is in power use, because they have the means to do so.

Not really. Western Europe had free speech throughout the latter half of the 20th century and early 21st century. Anglo ruled America did as well up until very recently when Jews became the dominant power and managed to take over much of the internet.

Genes that make you successful must be passed from one generation to the next. Otherwise, no smart person can ever be born to begin with, or they all should have died out already.

Not sure what point you are making. Intelligence was once extremely important to success in passing on your genes. It isnt today and hasnt been for many generations.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Not really. Western Europe had free speech throughout the latter half of the 20th century and early 21st century. Anglo ruled America did as well up until very recently when Jews became the dominant power and managed to take over much of the internet.

Are you talking unrestricted free speech? That's not true. Canada banned religions like the Jehovahs Witnesses in 1940 and I don't see any ruling that connects it with Jews.

Not sure what point you are making. Intelligence was once extremely important to success in passing on your genes. It isnt today and hasnt been for many generations.

We can't really call these people smart if they fail something so elementary. It begs the question of why would such genes exist in the first place, given that they form an evolutionary dead end.

It would actually put it in the same category as homosexuality, which is regarded as a defect as opposed to something biologically successful.

[–]antireddit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Are you talking unrestricted free speech? That's not true. Canada banned religions like the Jehovahs Witnesses in 1940 and I don't see any ruling that connects it with Jews.

Nice strawman. Cherry pick some obscure example from one nation 80 years ago, and then ignore the broader point that white/anglo countries for the most part had free speech up until very recently when Jewish media/internet control and leverage grew to the point they could censor and deplatform critics with impunity and control the narrative.

We can't really call these people smart if they fail something so elementary. It begs the question of why would such genes exist in the first place, given that they form an evolutionary dead end.

From a strictly selfish pov, having children isnt necessarily smart. It requires sacrifice and lots of expense. The seductive appeal of the propaganda were talking about is that it appeals to hedonism and materialism. Who wants to pay for diapers when you could buy a new nintendo switch. Who wants to get married and raise a family when you can hook up on tinder and watch endless internet porn.

By the time people regret the decision not to have kids they are usually too old to do anything about it.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nice strawman. Cherry pick some obscure example from one nation 80 years ago, and then ignore the broader point that white/anglo countries for the most part had free speech up until very recently when Jewish media/internet control and leverage grew to the point they could censor and deplatform critics with impunity and control the narrative.

The ruling involved the Supreme Court and even a future Canadian Prime Minister. Not obscure at all.

From a strictly selfish pov, having children isnt necessarily smart. It requires sacrifice and lots of expense. The seductive appeal of the propaganda were talking about is that it appeals to hedonism and materialism. Who wants to pay for diapers when you could buy a new nintendo switch. Who wants to get married and raise a family when you can hook up on tinder and watch endless internet porn. By the time people regret the decision not to have kids they are usually too old to do anything about it.

Going to school requires a lot of sacrifice and expense. So does the act of building a hospital or laying train tracks. I'm sorry but even the hedonist argument doesn't justify intelligent people deciding to commit voluntary suicide. It ignores other arguments like children playing a role in looking after their parents when they become too sick, or even the fact having children offers government tax breaks.

If smart people also want to play video games all day or refuse to change diapers, there exists services meant to cover this. It's called daycare centers or private nannies.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If we're having this conversation right now, then clearly it means they are successful.

You'd be amazed at how few people you really need to blackmail or offer a Jewish wife in order to change policy. You don't need millions of whites on board with your program to change a population. At least not in a technology/industrialized era. Why do you think so many in the alt right promote the ideas of Uncle Ted? Technology is a powerful tool to enslave and change the genetics of a population if it falls into the wrong hands...

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree with this, but this actually supports my worldview that any group or race could be powerful if they muster the same energy. I see these examples already with mega corporations like Amazon or Walmart. They're not Jewish, but if they wanted to make the lives of millions of Americans miserable, it only takes one second for them to disrupt the supply chain of food, or crush competition.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if they muster the same energy.

And by 'muster the same energy' you mean latch onto a larger moral populace, practice violent subversion, ethnic warfare, genocide, child trafficking, etc.??

The bottom line is most fruits that you see from Jews come from theft and parasitism.

Jews long ago realized they can not stand alone as a people. Parasitism or perish is the motto of the Jew. (At least that is their core belief; who knows what they might accomplish if they choose to adopt more honor bound self sustaining moral philosophies).

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Genes that make you successful must be passed from one generation to the next. Otherwise, no smart person can ever be born to begin with, or they all should have died out already.

No, this isn't always true. Selection pressures are extremely relaxed right now. You're conflating successful procreation with passing down good genes. Modernity is dysgenic in many ways. Modern medicine is dysgenic in giving the weak a second chance. Nature would not be so kind. Same goes for the modern welfare state subsidizing the lowest in our societies. I'm sure there's also other examples people can think of. Just look at Africa's population explosion from foreign aid. The population there is increasing through no advances of their own (other than mating more or having more of their children survive to adulthood).

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The selection pressure exists right now. If you get sick, who is going to look after you? Or if you buy a home, who is meant to inherit it if you accidently die? That's why I find calling these intelligent genes "successful" to be quite the oxymoron. Especially when we're talking about the same people who work on projects that can take an entire lifetime (i.e building highways/infrastructure) but somehow the challenge of replacing themselves with offspring is somehow "too hard". It would imply their intelligence is actually a defect, similar to how homosexuality gets passed down each generation but is still a dead end biologically. Are we really suppose to praise geniuses or interpret they are superior to other races when they themselves are volunteering to go extinct?

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The selection pressure exists right now.

The selection pressure for what exactly?

Your post is all over the place and pretty incoherent. It sounds like you're having a very scattered argument in your head.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The selection pressure for what exactly?

Your retirement. Japan is an example of what's going to happen soon if you don't address the replacement problem. The population is getting old, but they're also running into labor shortages. https://thediplomat.com/2019/11/how-does-japans-aging-society-affect-its-economy/

I recall before the Covid pandemic, the government was going into panic mode and even wanted to bring in more Filipino immigrants to act as a temporary bandaid. But they're going to run out of young people soon which is going to result in a crash in supporting the older population.

[–]Nombre27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

More immigrants will never be a viable solution to an aging population. They end up costing more in social services, they drive down wages, the amount of remittance that leaves the country grows. It actually makes things worse as it doesn't address the causes of these problems, namely the increased cost of living, again which more immigration just makes worse.

The government (and corporations) are threatened by downsizing and reduced tax revenue/profits, so they just kick the can down the road, i.e. what happens when all these new imports start drawing pensions and more social services or healthcare? Now they've just made that previous problem 10x worse, or whatever multiplicative effect it will be (it will be larger no matter what).

Anyway, you're still really all over the place. You stating that it's the selection pressure for retiring is not what a selection pressure is, or at least in common parlance.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Anywhere there is Capitalism, there has to be growth. That's the nature of the game, unless you approve of economic contraction. Which to my knowledge, almost no one wants to be poor, everyone wants to be richer than they were yesterday. It's true that immigrants can be a burden and even take out money via welfare, but ultimately, you have to address who is going stand out in the hot sun everyday and keep the food supply chain going. Or how will you grow your tax base and pay for the increasingly dependent senior population at the same time?

So there's still a selection pressure: a shrinking economy will force people to give up their standard of living. And given how more people would rather buy from Amazon/Walmart rather than support higher priced but locally made goods, there's going to be a chaotic end to this episode.